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		<title>By: g_c</title>
		<link>http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/03/11/mahs-story-is-also-singapores-story/comment-page-1/#comment-92375</link>
		<dc:creator>g_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, well written article Kok Lim. You can truly call yourself Son of Singapore because you understand what the ordinary Singaporean feels and goes through everyday. I will vote for you any day if you stand for election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, well written article Kok Lim. You can truly call yourself Son of Singapore because you understand what the ordinary Singaporean feels and goes through everyday. I will vote for you any day if you stand for election.</p>
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		<title>By: Flat Prices Go Down?</title>
		<link>http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/03/11/mahs-story-is-also-singapores-story/comment-page-1/#comment-92290</link>
		<dc:creator>Flat Prices Go Down?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If we control resale flat prices, we&#039;re actually moving away from the free market, which fundamentally would not be in the interest of homeowners.&quot;
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his illusory free market is one in which he has total control of supply (new stock of flats or land parcels, both from HDB or URA). there is slightly less control over URA (20% of housing) and an iron hand control over HDB (80% of housing).

he also dictates who can buy which flat, who can&#039;t buy which release based on his criteria.

after controlling it in this manner, he comes and tells you there is &quot;free market&quot;. could he please stop abusing that term and instead call it a controlled market?

which free market would also have a controller who says we need to PERPETUALLY inflate prices? the stock market also got up and down. even genting casino got up and down. is his market different? for what purpose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If we control resale flat prices, we&#8217;re actually moving away from the free market, which fundamentally would not be in the interest of homeowners.&#8221;<br />
- &#8211; &#8212; &#8211; - &#8212; </p>
<p>his illusory free market is one in which he has total control of supply (new stock of flats or land parcels, both from HDB or URA). there is slightly less control over URA (20% of housing) and an iron hand control over HDB (80% of housing).</p>
<p>he also dictates who can buy which flat, who can&#8217;t buy which release based on his criteria.</p>
<p>after controlling it in this manner, he comes and tells you there is &#8220;free market&#8221;. could he please stop abusing that term and instead call it a controlled market?</p>
<p>which free market would also have a controller who says we need to PERPETUALLY inflate prices? the stock market also got up and down. even genting casino got up and down. is his market different? for what purpose?</p>
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		<title>By: Flat Prices Go Down?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flat Prices Go Down?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But COV could also act to &quot;retard&quot; price growth, Mr Mak told MediaCorp, &quot;since most buyers have limited cash to pay for the COV&quot;.

&quot;If the valuation of the flat is growing at a slower rate, the rate of growth of resale prices can decelerate,&quot; he explained after the show.
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His answer is obvious again. COV is there to at BEST retard price INFLATION, not to make it drop. in other worse, his intention is to, again, clearly, INFLATE it, even though it might be inflated at a retarded rate. which means that the current predicament all of you are in, can only get worse, never better, with his ideas still floating around as gospel truth. he has clearly stated his motive for having this concept of COV - to help inflate prices no matter rain or shine.

he is an ardent subscriber of inflation, it seems. wonder why? is he also a victim of inflation? is his family in dire need to beat this inflation to house themselves? can he understand the impact of inflation or must the people teach him? in no unclear manner, through some form of a mandate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But COV could also act to &#8220;retard&#8221; price growth, Mr Mak told MediaCorp, &#8220;since most buyers have limited cash to pay for the COV&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;If the valuation of the flat is growing at a slower rate, the rate of growth of resale prices can decelerate,&#8221; he explained after the show.<br />
 &#8211; -  &#8212; &#8212; &#8211; &#8211; - &#8212;</p>
<p>His answer is obvious again. COV is there to at BEST retard price INFLATION, not to make it drop. in other worse, his intention is to, again, clearly, INFLATE it, even though it might be inflated at a retarded rate. which means that the current predicament all of you are in, can only get worse, never better, with his ideas still floating around as gospel truth. he has clearly stated his motive for having this concept of COV &#8211; to help inflate prices no matter rain or shine.</p>
<p>he is an ardent subscriber of inflation, it seems. wonder why? is he also a victim of inflation? is his family in dire need to beat this inflation to house themselves? can he understand the impact of inflation or must the people teach him? in no unclear manner, through some form of a mandate?</p>
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		<title>By: Flat Prices Go Down?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flat Prices Go Down?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.todayonline.com/Hotnews/EDC100315-0000021/The-Pinnacle-a-Talking-Point

And &quot;we make sure we don&#039;t overbuild because once you overbuild, you&#039;ll make flat prices in future go down, and that&#039;s not what we want&quot;, he said.
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I thought most people think going down is a good thing?  Why is he deliberately trying to not let it go down? Is he trying to do something good for the country, or something bad? He expressed his intention this time very clearly, no doubt about it. The question is, what is his motive? He is not only endorsing this 50% hike in prices over the last 3+ years, but trying to fix it up there, and maybe raise it some more. is this the way we want our country to be?</description>
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<p>And &#8220;we make sure we don&#8217;t overbuild because once you overbuild, you&#8217;ll make flat prices in future go down, and that&#8217;s not what we want&#8221;, he said.<br />
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<p>I thought most people think going down is a good thing?  Why is he deliberately trying to not let it go down? Is he trying to do something good for the country, or something bad? He expressed his intention this time very clearly, no doubt about it. The question is, what is his motive? He is not only endorsing this 50% hike in prices over the last 3+ years, but trying to fix it up there, and maybe raise it some more. is this the way we want our country to be?</p>
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		<title>By: The Fool</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mah has done it again on Sunday&#039;s Talking Point.

notice the key words:

&quot;first time buyers.. priced out of the market&quot; and &quot;leave it to the market&quot;

if &quot;the market price has been rising and rising and is now 50% more than like 3 years ago&quot;, what is the state of the market?

secondary school answer: market is rising because demand outweighs supply.

in a free market, what would be the response?

secondary school answer: increase supply (and not tie one hand behind back and pretend to increase a little at a time) or temper demand (instead of nudge nudge a little only) or both.

are we in a free market?

secondary school answer: no, because supply does not come any time. it comes only when a single authoritarian body decides it should come. and if that body misinterprets the market, we have a problem, as we already do now. also, if that same authoritarian body has control over demand (population size), we have a bigger problem on our hands.

so why do they keep referring to the market?

secondary school answer: they are trying to fool some people. maybe all the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mah has done it again on Sunday&#8217;s Talking Point.</p>
<p>notice the key words:</p>
<p>&#8220;first time buyers.. priced out of the market&#8221; and &#8220;leave it to the market&#8221;</p>
<p>if &#8220;the market price has been rising and rising and is now 50% more than like 3 years ago&#8221;, what is the state of the market?</p>
<p>secondary school answer: market is rising because demand outweighs supply.</p>
<p>in a free market, what would be the response?</p>
<p>secondary school answer: increase supply (and not tie one hand behind back and pretend to increase a little at a time) or temper demand (instead of nudge nudge a little only) or both.</p>
<p>are we in a free market?</p>
<p>secondary school answer: no, because supply does not come any time. it comes only when a single authoritarian body decides it should come. and if that body misinterprets the market, we have a problem, as we already do now. also, if that same authoritarian body has control over demand (population size), we have a bigger problem on our hands.</p>
<p>so why do they keep referring to the market?</p>
<p>secondary school answer: they are trying to fool some people. maybe all the people.</p>
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		<title>By: My2centsWorth</title>
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		<dc:creator>My2centsWorth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOC DAMN CHIAKLAT NOWADAYS.

STONE-WALL PPL POSTINGS N GIVE CRAPPY REASONS.

If all forum use their reasoning below, then moderators will be very busy making sure only one &#039;suan&#039;/criticism allowed on each thread.

LOL


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Bree Mar 13, 2010 21:03 ....... 

Moderating Editor: 
Because you are repeating a point that has clearly been made earlier. Please direct your pressure directly to Mr Goh Meng Seng instead of ‘talking’ to him via the comments section, thanks.
 

@TOC NOWADAYS LIKE REACH - STONEWALL PEOPLE POSTINGS 
Mar 13, 2010 22:38 ...........

Moderating Editor: 
........... We stand by our advice that you should take up grievances with Mr Goh Meng Seng directly instead of attempting to engage in dialogue on this thread of comments – to which he has no obligation to respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOC DAMN CHIAKLAT NOWADAYS.</p>
<p>STONE-WALL PPL POSTINGS N GIVE CRAPPY REASONS.</p>
<p>If all forum use their reasoning below, then moderators will be very busy making sure only one &#8217;suan&#8217;/criticism allowed on each thread.</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>Quote -</p>
<p>Bree Mar 13, 2010 21:03 &#8230;&#8230;. </p>
<p>Moderating Editor:<br />
Because you are repeating a point that has clearly been made earlier. Please direct your pressure directly to Mr Goh Meng Seng instead of ‘talking’ to him via the comments section, thanks.</p>
<p>@TOC NOWADAYS LIKE REACH &#8211; STONEWALL PEOPLE POSTINGS<br />
Mar 13, 2010 22:38 &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Moderating Editor:<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. We stand by our advice that you should take up grievances with Mr Goh Meng Seng directly instead of attempting to engage in dialogue on this thread of comments – to which he has no obligation to respond.</p>
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		<title>By: TOC NOWADAYS LIKE REACH - STONEWALL  PEOPLE POSTINGS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TOC NOWADAYS LIKE REACH - STONEWALL  PEOPLE POSTINGS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOC NOWADAYS LIKE REACH - STONEWALL  PEOPLE POSTINGS

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/a-minister-must-fall-in-the-process-of-change-says-nsp-sec-gen/comment-page-4/#comment-134377

---------------
TOC ADMIN,

We know TOC is supporter of NSP and trying to shield Goh Meng Seng.

By censoring, TOC is no different from REACH.

Quote -
Bree 
Mar 12, 2010 16:11 
TOC, praticising censorship again? Why din ‘post’ my 2 remarks?

Moderating Editor: Because you are repeating a point that has clearly been made earlier. Please direct your pressure directly to Mr Goh Meng Seng instead of ‘talking’ to him via the comments section, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOC NOWADAYS LIKE REACH &#8211; STONEWALL  PEOPLE POSTINGS</p>
<p><a href="http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/a-minister-must-fall-in-the-process-of-change-says-nsp-sec-gen/comment-page-4/#comment-134377" rel="nofollow">http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/02/a-minister-must-fall-in-the-process-of-change-says-nsp-sec-gen/comment-page-4/#comment-134377</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
TOC ADMIN,</p>
<p>We know TOC is supporter of NSP and trying to shield Goh Meng Seng.</p>
<p>By censoring, TOC is no different from REACH.</p>
<p>Quote -<br />
Bree<br />
Mar 12, 2010 16:11<br />
TOC, praticising censorship again? Why din ‘post’ my 2 remarks?</p>
<p>Moderating Editor: Because you are repeating a point that has clearly been made earlier. Please direct your pressure directly to Mr Goh Meng Seng instead of ‘talking’ to him via the comments section, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: BrownMoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrownMoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homeless Singaporean lady urgently looking for a Single Singaporean/PR man for a marriage of convenience to apply for a brand new HDB flat as per the government housing policy. 
Any responsible guy who share the same situation and wanna enjoy owining a place and living an independent lifestyle,buzz me. brownleo72@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homeless Singaporean lady urgently looking for a Single Singaporean/PR man for a marriage of convenience to apply for a brand new HDB flat as per the government housing policy.<br />
Any responsible guy who share the same situation and wanna enjoy owining a place and living an independent lifestyle,buzz me. <a href="mailto:brownleo72@gmail.com">brownleo72@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: BrownMoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrownMoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a homeless Singaporean lady looking for a Single Singaporean/PR man for a marriage of convenience to apply for a brand new HDB flat as per the government housing policy. 
If u r someone who needs a place of your own to stay , like your space, privacy , independence and enjoy the freedom of a single lifestyle, buzz me for more details. brownleo72@gmail.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a homeless Singaporean lady looking for a Single Singaporean/PR man for a marriage of convenience to apply for a brand new HDB flat as per the government housing policy.<br />
If u r someone who needs a place of your own to stay , like your space, privacy , independence and enjoy the freedom of a single lifestyle, buzz me for more details. <a href="mailto:brownleo72@gmail.com">brownleo72@gmail.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: rental</title>
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		<dc:creator>rental</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>today&#039;s newspaper about them repossessing illegally rented flats.  one of the reasons they identify to put the blame on, for this situation we are in.

a lot of fingers get pointed in every direction.

how many times have you heard them say, &quot;perhaps we, as the greatest influence over the largest factor which is flat supply and price fixation, are the main cause of it?&quot;

when they make a mistake, the japanese come out, apologise, some commit suicide and the rest get forgiven and carry on making motorcars.  i suppose singaporean culture is closer to the SAF style:  &quot;My fault isit?  you saying it&#039;s my fault isit?  (No Sir!)  Then whose fault?  Your fault?  (Yes Sir!)  You rent out isit?  Your fault?  (Sir! Yes Sir!)  knock it down ...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>today&#8217;s newspaper about them repossessing illegally rented flats.  one of the reasons they identify to put the blame on, for this situation we are in.</p>
<p>a lot of fingers get pointed in every direction.</p>
<p>how many times have you heard them say, &#8220;perhaps we, as the greatest influence over the largest factor which is flat supply and price fixation, are the main cause of it?&#8221;</p>
<p>when they make a mistake, the japanese come out, apologise, some commit suicide and the rest get forgiven and carry on making motorcars.  i suppose singaporean culture is closer to the SAF style:  &#8220;My fault isit?  you saying it&#8217;s my fault isit?  (No Sir!)  Then whose fault?  Your fault?  (Yes Sir!)  You rent out isit?  Your fault?  (Sir! Yes Sir!)  knock it down &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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