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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LEAVE ALL EMOTIONS ASIDE. Let us deal with reality.

FIRST UP, TODAY&#039;S NEWS IS NOT TOMMORROW&#039;S NEWS BY JOURNALISM&#039;s DESIGN, regardless of whether it is accurately reported or twisted. 

There is no repeat broadcast or print of yesterday&#039;s &quot;news&quot;.

TR is an open debating floor just like a dance floor in a funky disco. The music can vary at each spin, so can the ANONYMOUS dancers stay, leave or enter the dance floor of their own choosing - UNINVITED NOR RESTRAINED WITH EACH CHANGE OF MUSIC. The dance now won&#039;t be in syn with the previous music beat. In one sense, the music and dance beat now &quot;stale&quot; as fast as today&#039;s news is stale to be available of tommorrow&#039;s news.

BUT TODAY&#039;S NEWS MIGHT BE ALL CAREFUL DISTORTIONS. 

TR exists to allow for rigorous dissection of &quot;news&quot; ( more accurately is information only ) beyond today. It stretches &quot;intellectual dance&quot; for however long and  interest of participation of its bloggers will invite themselves. 

That is the beauty of alternative media of stretching the longevity of today&#039;s &quot;news&quot; .

Otherwise, fouled journalism is like a fart trail. It leaves stealthily with the journalist seeking to hide the truth but the stinks already unleashed irritates the truth and senses for a while more of its surrounding to leave its well-targeted victims some injurious fragrance confused of informed judgment.

Should TR change before MSM change? My answer is definitely NO. TR is here to bring us distorted information of today as tommorrow&#039;s &quot;news&quot;- correcting and corrected by its bloggers.

WHY CHANGE THE STATUS QUO WHEN IT ADDS VALUE. 

UNORTHODOXY MEETS NEATLY AND NICELY WITH UNORTHODOXY. How else can it be effective otherwise????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LEAVE ALL EMOTIONS ASIDE. Let us deal with reality.</p>
<p>FIRST UP, TODAY&#8217;S NEWS IS NOT TOMMORROW&#8217;S NEWS BY JOURNALISM&#8217;s DESIGN, regardless of whether it is accurately reported or twisted. </p>
<p>There is no repeat broadcast or print of yesterday&#8217;s &#8220;news&#8221;.</p>
<p>TR is an open debating floor just like a dance floor in a funky disco. The music can vary at each spin, so can the ANONYMOUS dancers stay, leave or enter the dance floor of their own choosing &#8211; UNINVITED NOR RESTRAINED WITH EACH CHANGE OF MUSIC. The dance now won&#8217;t be in syn with the previous music beat. In one sense, the music and dance beat now &#8220;stale&#8221; as fast as today&#8217;s news is stale to be available of tommorrow&#8217;s news.</p>
<p>BUT TODAY&#8217;S NEWS MIGHT BE ALL CAREFUL DISTORTIONS. </p>
<p>TR exists to allow for rigorous dissection of &#8220;news&#8221; ( more accurately is information only ) beyond today. It stretches &#8220;intellectual dance&#8221; for however long and  interest of participation of its bloggers will invite themselves. </p>
<p>That is the beauty of alternative media of stretching the longevity of today&#8217;s &#8220;news&#8221; .</p>
<p>Otherwise, fouled journalism is like a fart trail. It leaves stealthily with the journalist seeking to hide the truth but the stinks already unleashed irritates the truth and senses for a while more of its surrounding to leave its well-targeted victims some injurious fragrance confused of informed judgment.</p>
<p>Should TR change before MSM change? My answer is definitely NO. TR is here to bring us distorted information of today as tommorrow&#8217;s &#8220;news&#8221;- correcting and corrected by its bloggers.</p>
<p>WHY CHANGE THE STATUS QUO WHEN IT ADDS VALUE. </p>
<p>UNORTHODOXY MEETS NEATLY AND NICELY WITH UNORTHODOXY. How else can it be effective otherwise????</p>
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		<title>By: xx</title>
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		<dc:creator>xx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TR is doing a great job. A little rough around the edges, but can be easily smoothed out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TR is doing a great job. A little rough around the edges, but can be easily smoothed out.</p>
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		<title>By: zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 00:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To your supporter @11.30 pm

One of the chief grouses against the People&#039;s Action PArty is that they indulge in self-praise.  It is common to see them start something and then after that regardless of what happens they praise the results. Sometimes it is true. At other times, atcually the actions are failures or at best neutral in the effect, but... the media place a veil over the bad points and everything becomes &quot;good&quot;.

When you said, &quot;TR has grown so good and popular now because of how it reflects the view and feeling of reality&quot; . The writer Mr Riyahi even said,  TR &quot;accomplished&quot; already the objective and IS the &quot;premiere online citizen journalism site&quot;.

Is this too much of a self-praise? 

只有不满，才有不断的进步。As it is TR is completely happy with its self-delusion that it is the premier site, and as the title of the article said, &quot;The Readers must change first before TR can change&quot;. 

Personally, I also support TR and believe that it has the capbaility to be the premier site.. but it hasn&#039;t reach there yet defintiely. Recent articles and the way they are worded, are suggesting that the standards are going down... things like sensationalising a non-issue, dragging on to an issue when it is already resolved, continuing to fan hatred and animosity.  

You said it &quot;reflects your feelings&quot;.  Is that the purpose of this site?  Or is it to point to a direction and recommend the solution?  Is this site based on stirring up feelings at the expense of truth, positive solutions, common sense, and all other wholesome ideals?  

zero</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To your supporter @11.30 pm</p>
<p>One of the chief grouses against the People&#8217;s Action PArty is that they indulge in self-praise.  It is common to see them start something and then after that regardless of what happens they praise the results. Sometimes it is true. At other times, atcually the actions are failures or at best neutral in the effect, but&#8230; the media place a veil over the bad points and everything becomes &#8220;good&#8221;.</p>
<p>When you said, &#8220;TR has grown so good and popular now because of how it reflects the view and feeling of reality&#8221; . The writer Mr Riyahi even said,  TR &#8220;accomplished&#8221; already the objective and IS the &#8220;premiere online citizen journalism site&#8221;.</p>
<p>Is this too much of a self-praise? </p>
<p>只有不满，才有不断的进步。As it is TR is completely happy with its self-delusion that it is the premier site, and as the title of the article said, &#8220;The Readers must change first before TR can change&#8221;. </p>
<p>Personally, I also support TR and believe that it has the capbaility to be the premier site.. but it hasn&#8217;t reach there yet defintiely. Recent articles and the way they are worded, are suggesting that the standards are going down&#8230; things like sensationalising a non-issue, dragging on to an issue when it is already resolved, continuing to fan hatred and animosity.  </p>
<p>You said it &#8220;reflects your feelings&#8221;.  Is that the purpose of this site?  Or is it to point to a direction and recommend the solution?  Is this site based on stirring up feelings at the expense of truth, positive solutions, common sense, and all other wholesome ideals?  </p>
<p>zero</p>
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		<title>By: objective</title>
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		<dc:creator>objective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About anonymity, your argument does not hold. If you are concerned the MSM has shady figures, then I should be even more concerned about here. There&#039;s practically no safeguard against shady figures here.

The MSM people write in their own names. People can judge and assess these personalities for themselves. In any case, their articles segregate facts and opinions. If you are uncomfortable about their opinions, you can cut out those opinion pieces from specific writers and use it for wrapping vegetables.

Over here, I don&#039;t know whether any specific writer has any vested interests in the focus of any specific articles. If discerning readers spot mistakes in the articles, these are conveniently covered up anonymously. It&#039;s impossible to judge whether it&#039;s an honest mistake or a pregnant lapse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About anonymity, your argument does not hold. If you are concerned the MSM has shady figures, then I should be even more concerned about here. There&#8217;s practically no safeguard against shady figures here.</p>
<p>The MSM people write in their own names. People can judge and assess these personalities for themselves. In any case, their articles segregate facts and opinions. If you are uncomfortable about their opinions, you can cut out those opinion pieces from specific writers and use it for wrapping vegetables.</p>
<p>Over here, I don&#8217;t know whether any specific writer has any vested interests in the focus of any specific articles. If discerning readers spot mistakes in the articles, these are conveniently covered up anonymously. It&#8217;s impossible to judge whether it&#8217;s an honest mistake or a pregnant lapse.</p>
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		<title>By: your supporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>your supporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zero, why this is extreme? IMHO, that is only your personal opinion. To Singaporeans, TR reflects our view and the feeling deep in our hearts. TR has grown so good and popular now because of how it reflects the view and feeling of reality without polite fake show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zero, why this is extreme? IMHO, that is only your personal opinion. To Singaporeans, TR reflects our view and the feeling deep in our hearts. TR has grown so good and popular now because of how it reflects the view and feeling of reality without polite fake show.</p>
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		<title>By: Aeiyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aeiyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not just too much Indian chiefs - but also too much people with too much time on their hands - like me.

Not working or taking care of the kids and typing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just too much Indian chiefs &#8211; but also too much people with too much time on their hands &#8211; like me.</p>
<p>Not working or taking care of the kids and typing this.</p>
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		<title>By: ten</title>
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		<dc:creator>ten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to TR, I have now stopped buying Straits Times altogether! I&#039;ve had enough of their spin and lies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to TR, I have now stopped buying Straits Times altogether! I&#8217;ve had enough of their spin and lies!</p>
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		<title>By: zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To The Sim

TR doesnt follow up anymore on Romania case because its policy is to expose the bad things the government is doing or has done.  

Actually I am fine with that, it&#039;s their policy, it&#039;s their website.  

The only big issue i have is that each exposure of goverhment&#039;s bad doings, must be fair and valid and not consist of misconstrued, twisted, and manipulated lies - especially the ARTICLE TITLES.  I had quoted some examples in various threads, but TR is behaving like Pappies, no response, don&#039;t want to talk about it.  

I believe that more donations will be forthcoming if they improve their credibility.  Right now they are behaving just like Pappies doing - holier than thou attitude.  Just look at this thread.  99% of the responses are pointing in the same direction.

zero</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To The Sim</p>
<p>TR doesnt follow up anymore on Romania case because its policy is to expose the bad things the government is doing or has done.  </p>
<p>Actually I am fine with that, it&#8217;s their policy, it&#8217;s their website.  </p>
<p>The only big issue i have is that each exposure of goverhment&#8217;s bad doings, must be fair and valid and not consist of misconstrued, twisted, and manipulated lies &#8211; especially the ARTICLE TITLES.  I had quoted some examples in various threads, but TR is behaving like Pappies, no response, don&#8217;t want to talk about it.  </p>
<p>I believe that more donations will be forthcoming if they improve their credibility.  Right now they are behaving just like Pappies doing &#8211; holier than thou attitude.  Just look at this thread.  99% of the responses are pointing in the same direction.</p>
<p>zero</p>
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		<title>By: wpthenewdawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>wpthenewdawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i do agree that TR is starting to look like a case of too many cooks spoiling the broth. what used to be a platform for an independent voice away from the state media has spiralled down towards articles and reports leaning towards systematical bashing of the ruling party. 

just like most readers, i am not a supporter of the ruling party one bit, but to constantly resort to ruling party-bashing and anti-sg fanning is not very constructive as it only makes TR lose credibility as an independent voice of singaporeans. 

like some of the readers have mentioned, a more neutral and objective stance will be more desirable for TR if it is to gather more respect and attention from the powers up above. already it is definitely believeable that TR is more popular than todayonline and it just proves the clout TR can leverage on. harness this popularity and TR can trully command some respect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i do agree that TR is starting to look like a case of too many cooks spoiling the broth. what used to be a platform for an independent voice away from the state media has spiralled down towards articles and reports leaning towards systematical bashing of the ruling party. </p>
<p>just like most readers, i am not a supporter of the ruling party one bit, but to constantly resort to ruling party-bashing and anti-sg fanning is not very constructive as it only makes TR lose credibility as an independent voice of singaporeans. </p>
<p>like some of the readers have mentioned, a more neutral and objective stance will be more desirable for TR if it is to gather more respect and attention from the powers up above. already it is definitely believeable that TR is more popular than todayonline and it just proves the clout TR can leverage on. harness this popularity and TR can trully command some respect!</p>
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		<title>By: The Sim</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Sim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To say TR is better then ST? that is debatable still.

TR relentlessly publish article about the Romania incident to &#039;inform&#039; the citizen it says.

But why no conclusion article when Romania waived the immunity? TR refuse to follow up anymore suddenly when things are going well for the government?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say TR is better then ST? that is debatable still.</p>
<p>TR relentlessly publish article about the Romania incident to &#8216;inform&#8217; the citizen it says.</p>
<p>But why no conclusion article when Romania waived the immunity? TR refuse to follow up anymore suddenly when things are going well for the government?</p>
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