Australia cracks down on skilled migrants even as Singapore continues to import unskilled foreign workers

February 8, 2010 by admin01
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49 Comments on "Australia cracks down on skilled migrants even as Singapore continues to import unskilled foreign workers"

Old Guy on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 4:50 pm

singapore is ONE strange place in the world that loves foreign workers SO MUCH…!

Spur-Proof Ass on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 5:03 pm

Yup, Australia will drop its current list of “in-demand” occupations and come out with a revised list of high skilled professions and trades. I also read another report that about 170,000 who applied before 2006 (before more stringent English standards) and still on waiting list for PR will have their applications cancelled and the application fees refunded.

Furthermore, even those satisfying the new list of skilled professions and stricter criteria will need to have confirmed job offer before their application can stand a good chance. You need to remember that Australia companies need to show proof that they cannot hire locals for 6 months before they can try to hire foreigners. And with strict labour laws, the reason for not being able to hire locals cannot be due to low salaries, or long working hours, or lousy working conditions, or unreasonable risky exposure, etc.

Bloomberg article
AP article

Digust on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 5:20 pm

Look at what i found

http://www.expatsingapore.com/forum/index.php?topic=50673.0;prev_next=prev

Should i surrender my PR under the circumstances
« Reply #4 on: 24 February 2009, 22:11:56 pm » Quote

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There are a number of ways to get this done:

1) Get yourself a company registered (over their website) and pay yourself a nominal salary – enough to say make a $100 contribution to cpf each month

2) File taxes – with income above, it’ll likely be negligible or zero

3) When you go to ICA to renew re-entry permit, Show your company registration docs, CPF history, and taxes for last 3 years.

Ulitimately, there’s a bureacrat govt. employee sitting behind the counter and will check and tick that you have all the requisite docs – and voila you’ll have a 10 yr re-entry permit

I used this trick in 1999 – I had been living outside SG for the previous 3.5 out of 5 years since grant of PR. It is all protocol and nooone at ICA can think. Outhinking them is no rocket science

Best of luck

jiangbao on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 5:21 pm

This is because singapore is in a unique situation where the govt loves foreigners more than its citizens, who are less driven, daft and most importantly vote them no matter what happens.

That is the difference.

Australia has to cater to the voting public who would go liberal or labour or green or nationals.

Singapore goes PAP or PAP.

There are truths and then there are truths on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 5:28 pm

They say oh, you cannot live without foreign workers. so its jusified.

But it depends on the extent and whether they are skilled enough. And whether locals can do the job are given the priority all else being equal. Does Courts ads hire malaysians when the ads s placed in JB? Those are not all frontline sales positions but many of them are backend admin or office jobs.

We need to understand the definition and Concept of Truth.

Can we handle the Truth?

Be nice to em on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 5:35 pm

2 million foreign talents were unemployed in US last month, 1 million graduates in china are unemployed each year, many more foreign talents from india, now australia; shouldnt we invite these foreign talents here to join our existing talents from philippines, malaysia, indonesia, thailand, vietnam, cambodia, mynamar, taiwan, china, india….. to help this place.. boom?

sturmtruppen on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 5:52 pm

Well…let us look at the quotes below…

http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/truth/

now…can we really handle the truth?

We can only hope and have belief in the human condition to improve and be a better person daily.

cy on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 5:52 pm

thanks Digust for pointing out the loophole.

this is really disgusting. i also read reports of ppl living as PR for 30 to 40 over years yet they don’t want to convert to citizen. i wonder why?

mon on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 6:12 pm

//Old Guy

love is excessive. More like feeding them and then kill them off. like the way the French prepare foie gras.

x12831 on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 6:19 pm

Perhaps a lot more will now go to Singapore! Everybody will be breathing down each other necks on the trains and buses!

gm on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 7:08 pm

In big contrast, Singaporeans have to brave up against government no U-turn stand to take any slight chance/ gamble on Singapore future with many more low-/ mid-level FWs

In long run, government will turn out to be real loser in neglecting main duty to serve locals, as Singaporeans do not see safe road ahead with these unsound/ money-minded policies

rubbish in rubbish out on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 7:45 pm

TR should rehash the articles on foreign workers in the sunday times yesterday by Ms Sumiko Tan…

Heading :Thank you, foreign worker

Why be angry at foreign workers in our midst when they are doing jobs that are unpopular but necessary?

Here’s an excerpt:
“The thing is, low-income earners in Singapore do have a choice. They can choose to be self-employed and to better their lot. Why aren’t there more self-employed people here? It doesn’t take long to learn how to be a tiler or a painter or a plumber, and they can make a pretty good living doing that, one would imagine.”

As for me,I also think it doesn’t take long to learn how to be to be a journalist…especially one that write crap.

LIONS ROAR on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 8:16 pm

The Australians have elected a government that has sense and sensibilities indeed!
Despite their vast natural resources and habitat,ommon sense prevails in AussieLand as shown by its government.
When will common sense be knocked into our elites.
Guess the citizens got to wake up too?

F9 on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 8:39 pm

Australia cracked down on skilled migrants.

Singapore welcome All Foreign Talents discarded by their country !

Look at China without these rubbish, China progress and progress.

Look at India without these shits, India prosperous & prosperous.

Look at singapore with all these Shits & Rubbish, becoming

worst than animals farm.

Singapore is becoming full of shitsssssssssssssssssssssssssssss & rubbishhhhhhhhhhhhhh or trash !!!

btan on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 9:30 pm

At the very least, NSP should return back to SDA. And if SDP can also join SDA, it would send a powerful shockwave in the political scene as well. Once WP is the last remaining un-allied opposition, it has then to decide to stand alone or also join the alliance.

badboy on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 9:33 pm

This shows that Singapore is becoming so cheap, accepting whoever applies for PR.

As I mention in many of my posts, this is a population driven policy not a talent driven policy! More people means higher GDP more CPF contribution more GST etc! Look impressive huh?

2 face on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 9:40 pm

This is absolutely wrong, Australia is cracking down on student visas for those doing vocational studies not skilled migrants.

racist on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 9:47 pm

Japan too is tightening their control on foreign migrants.
15-20 years ago there were swamps of pinoys going to Japan, there were other nationalities too, but pinoys were the most.
There tried illegal ways to stay and work in Japan as what is happening in Singapore now.
The Japanese government did not take it seriously then, because they too needed low paid workers due to recession and jobs that were shun by their own people.
Then it got out of hand when these migrants came non stop and was out of control. The Japanese government had a hard time catching them.
The Japanese government had to gave amnesty to those who will come out of hiding and the Japanese government had to pay for their air fare back to their own country.
These illegals that were sent back from Japan are now in Singapore.
Those illegals who evaded being caught and still staying in Japan, are now fighting for their rights to stay in Japan under human rights.
About 5 years ago, there was another swarms of PRCs this time, as what is happening now in Singapore.
Facts had proven, but not heeded.

Get rid of on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 9:49 pm

LSS recently in jest spoke of “too many foreigners coming in too fast no good”. Wondering if it might be a great idea to load those “surplus” up on our Hercules transports, send them over South China Sea and simply “unload” them mid-air in mid-flight – without parachutes of course.

That would be hilarious, wouldn’t it?

PAP On The Way To Decline on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 9:54 pm

Well, well what our dear LKY as well our many miniLKYs have to say about the new Australian immigration policy now.
So who is more daft. When Lee Kuan Yew say Singaporeans are daft. Actually he is pointing 4 fingers back at himself.
Hahaha! Bloody Old Fart, piss off man.

racist on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 10:12 pm

Japan too are tightening down on foreign migrants.
15-20 years ago there were swarms of pinoys to Japan.
The Japanese government had a hard time cracking down on them that the Japanese government had to gave amnesty to those who are willing to come out of hiding and paid for their air fare back to philippines.
Those illegals that were sent back are now in Singapore.
The Japanese government did not take it seriously then, because they too needed low wage earners, and jobs that were shun by their own people.
5 years ago there was another swarm of migrants, this time PRCs, as what is happening in Singapore now.
Facts proven, but not heeded.

anonymous on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 10:38 pm

“Under the Howard government, we had a lot of cooks, a lot of hairdressers coming through,” Evans told reporters. “We were taking hairdressers from overseas in front of doctors and nurses _ it didn’t make any sense.”

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/ap/20100208/tap-as-australia-immigration-79704af.html

IS THIS NOT FAMILIAR TO SINGAPORE’S EXPERIENCE? PRs as cleaners, masseuses, etc

And this comment from Australian Immigration Minister Chris Evans blamed….” the overrepresentation of lower skilled immigrants on a system put in place by Prime Minister John Howard, whose government lost power in 2007 elections.”

OVER-REPRESENTATION OF LOWER SKILLED IMMIGRANTS – something familiar again in Singapore.

The Howard Government was kicked out of office, shouldn’t we do the same???

and one more oddity

“Australia continues to have a shortage of accountants, partly because many of the 40,000 accountants who immigrated in the past five years did not have the professional or language skills to find work, Evans said.”

We got foreign “talent” arriving here NEEDING FURTHER SKILL TRAINING IN LANGUAGE SKILLS TO SUSTAIN THEIR JOBS AT TAX-PAYER EXPENSES.

Is this NOT our familiar tragedy while skilled qualified Singaporeans displaced into unemployment ???

AUSTRALIA IS REFORMING ITS IMMIGRATION POLICY TO RETURN AND REFUND IMMIGRATION APPLICATIONS.

WHAT IS OUR GOVERNMENT WAITING FOR??????????? THE ELECTION OR STRESS TEST FURTHER THE VOTERS’ TOLERANCE OF OVERLOADING TO LOAD MORE?????????

Haha on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 11:09 pm

I find it really funny! Do you think the below will happen?

Young Singapore: Pick and choose. Can afford to reject.
Young girl: Pick and choose. Can afford to reject.

Middleage Singapore(about now): Starts taking in all sorts of persons.
Middleage woman: Starts going out with all sorts of men

Oldage Singapore: Open up to China/Bangla, they may also not want to come.
Old hag: Open up to China/Bangla, they may also not come.

Jerome Au Kian Beng on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 11:19 pm

i think australia boleh as they got strong opposition to check and balance and apply pressure.

Sungaporean on Mon, 8th Feb 2010 11:28 pm

Just vote PAP out !

singapore on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 12:18 am

haha ferk off “anonymous”

australia gives you PR even before you land in their country. electricians, libarians, cooks can get PR easily.

shove your australian fetish up your arse. australia sucks.

your ferking english really ferking sucks. you should be banned from posting.

shit everytime i read your post i cringe.

LIONS ROAR on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 1:05 am

The world has gone from military warfare to economic warfare with CHINA as the current winner through its cheap communist labour…the rest of the this world’s workers have been short-changed!

Mercy on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 7:23 am

To F9..you are certainly an animal..how could you call fellow human being as Rubbish and Trash??…with your statement
..surely reflect you as a real shit and rubbish! I do not support goverment polcy of allowing too many cheap workers nto Singapore..although their intention is to replace dwindling population and building election votes from the new citizen but please do not call them rubbish!

Moneyman on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 8:55 am

HI Guys! Please Read This..

These are my truest thoughts in a day..

I was actually thinking why in the first place was there a need to have such a policy to import so many FTs to Singapore.

Government say that we are a shrinking population, our GDP will not grow and our economy will suffer.

So I thought about that, and I figured out that by importing FTs, our economy will improve slightly and perhaps make our GDP grow but in return the people who will suffer will be all Singaporeans. And what do we get from a improving economy? Nothing much apart from jobs and work in which we do not have at the moment due to so much competition from FTs anyway.

So the Government has been importing FTs, with such a high influx because of greed. Pure greed. With more FTs, they earn more, have more to shout about eg Economy improve etc.

If they did the FT policy slow and gradual it would still work and less imposing on us Singaporeans but they didnt. Because they were greedy. Wanted results fast and faster. Now we are all in this mess.

All they care about is $$.. and don;t care about our welfare at all..

myfairynest on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 9:45 am

Foreign Talents only eligible to apply for PR after 6 years (last time was 5 years)of employment in UK.

anonymous on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 10:14 am

@ singapore on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 12:18 am

Wow, I can see your quality English of can’t even spell the exquisite word “fucking” correctly ( spelling it as ferking ). Did you taught your school kids such classic English expletives? Tell us the school where you “chant your prayers of outlandish languages” ( I am sure you claim that to be your teaching), I won’t hesitate to connect to MOE.

Sure you get a pay rise after that and you did be proud to advertise it on TR at least.

Your venom betrays the snake in your mindset and hate-filled soul – all poisoned of rationality and reasoned debate noted by even Fencesitter.

Go back to the zoo where you come from.

Goodbye, Singapore!!

anonymous on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 10:26 am

@ singapore on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 12:18 am

” australia gives you PR even before you land in their country. electricians, libarians, cooks can get PR easily.”

Wow, another episode of your rear end releasing more hot smelly gases?

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ma1958118/

If your excellence in English is worth the toilet paper you got a PGCE, see if you understand the law in the legislation I linked for you, then come back to me and all in TR which section of the Migration Act 1958 which says “australia gives you PR even before you land in their country.”

I am waiting IMPATIENTLY for your proud exposition of uniquely distinguished English Language skills and Australian law expertise.

Please come back. Thank you, Singapore!!!

Hmm on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 10:37 am

the reason why singapore embrace foreign workers librerally simply because the govt take citizen’s vote for granted and most likely they are pro biz due to their directorship/wife’s biz dealings.

it is so easy to fool singaporean to vote for them. most singaporean dont bother to find out the truth. they accept what the govt tell them.

Demoralized on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 12:48 pm

I’m an Accountancy undergraduate, Singaporean who has not been able to snag a FT job for the past 8 months, i’m 27 btw. Been doing temp jobs just to sustain myself at the moment..

I don’t get why our government is so hell bent on getting in so many foreigners. Yes i agree we need them, but can’t we get in skilled and competent foreigners? In the past few years our country seems to be licking China’s ass alot, resulting in many jobs here requiring a particular language skill which disadvantages alotta minority Singaporeans. But then again fine, i tell myself it’s a challenge i’m willing to face and i try to work my way around it and still put in the effort to find a job. I’ve even invested money just to pick up abit of the language. But still wat’s the point? Discrimination still abounds when employers would rather employ a particular race than to hire him/her based on his qualifications so as to maintain the racial quota, not to mention i gotta fight head on with foreigners too. They might even prefer a Caucasian employee over me. Why is our country beginning to have this “White Fetish”?

Sometimes i wish i had just done my degree in Australia, waited for PR and end up working there instead of having to face so many barriers here, in my own country. I really worry about the kind of direction Singapore is taking and think i should start to consider looking for opportunities beyond our shores too..

righteous on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 1:51 pm

I had worked in a company where one of the Directors has an Australian passport but born Malaysian. His work sucks!

I knew of a shanghai lady also holding an Australian passport but born in Shanghai. The company that she works for is an Australian company and most of the employees are foreigners.

Why are all these foreign Australian passport holders come to singapore to work?

singapore on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 2:52 pm

*Wow, I can see your quality English of can’t even spell the exquisite word “fucking” correctly ( spelling it as ferking ). *

classic. some people are so dumb they dont even know you spell it as ferking in an attempt to censor the word.

plenty of singaporeans get australian pr even before landing in aus. how do i know? i have one myself lol.

brain transplant in order sir?
aye!

Tao Laozhi on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 3:29 pm

The change in the Aussie Migration Laws got to do with the overwhelming influx of Indians into Australia. A lot of them come over to Australia to do educational courses in hairdressing, culinary skills [chef], accounting and then apply for PR towards the end of their course. The previous migration program identified a shortage in those trades and provided additional points if the applicant was skilled in that particular trade. It became a rort by the Indian Agents and the Aussie private institutions to bring in Indians to Australia by the boatloads. The Aussie Govt is simply closing this loophole. The recent attacks on Indians serves as a reminder that they have overstayed their welcome. The anti-Aussie furore in India and Indian demonstrations in Australia caused the Australian govt to gather their resolve and reduced this influx once and for all. After 9/11, govts are very wary of militant minorities that agitate and cause security problems. BTW, this is based on fact and in no way racist and anti-Indians.

anonymous on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 4:06 pm

@ singapore on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 2:52 pm

“plenty of singaporeans get australian pr even before landing in aus. how do i know? i have one myself lol”

Really, you are an Aussie PR?

Or is it your English too poor unable to comprehend laws written in English and cannot find one section of the Australian Migration Act 1958 to substantiate your burst of hot smelly air from your rear end.

ROTFLMAO

Let me teach you a bit of moral, then a bit of Australian migration law with reference to the legislation to prove YOU such a cheap trashy ignorant LIAR!

First the moral part. No point clenching your butt after the fart has flown off – that is a nice Japanese proverb.

Now let me prove you a LIAR!! Back to the link of Australian Migration Act

Section 116 (1) (c) and (d)

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ma1958118/s116.html

which I shall copy the relevant section for your prior ignorance of read here

(d) if its holder has not entered Australia or has so entered but has not been immigration cleared–it would be liable to be cancelled under Subdivision C (incorrect information given by holder) if its holder had so entered and been immigration cleared; or

(e) the presence of its holder in Australia is, or would be, a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community; or

(f) the visa should not have been granted because the application for it or its grant was in contravention of this Act or of another law of the Commonwealth;

WHAT DOES THAT PROVED?

IT PROVED THAT YOUR PR APPROVAL IS ONLY VALIDATED UPON ARRIVAL IN AUSTRALIA AND IT CAN BE CANCELLED BEFORE ARRIVAL OR UPON ARRIVAL OR INDEED CANCELLED under section 116 (d) …”has not entered Australia or has so entered but has not been immigration cleared”

In simple English, when you disembarked in Australia from the aircraft and appear before the Immigration Officer, you are said in Australian law to have “entered Australia but HAS NOT BEEN IMMIGRATION CLEARED” and your PR application entry visa can be cancelled on the spot under section

116 (e) or (f) in quote below

…..in Australia is, or would be, a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community…..

SO AN IDIOT LIKE YOU GOES IN AND swear violently “FUCK THIS PERSON AND THAT PERSON LANGUAGES” AT THE IMMIGRATION OFFICER, the officer will happily cancel your PR status WITH A BIG SMILE on ‘CHARACTER GROUNDS” and you can call your SCUM ( your favourite word to describe old lady, not mine here) mother on your mobile to pay for your return trip back to Singapore so that you can join the next embarkation flight BACK TO SINGAPORE.!!!

HOORAY HOORAY HORRAY.

You still a PR of Australia and didn’t now that your PR is ONLY VALIDATED UPON ARRIVAL AND STAMPED WITH A NEW PERMANENT RESIDENT VISA INSIDE AUSTRALIA???

You see – the difference between you and me is that YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND CONSISTENT LIAR. That is why it is so easy to catch you out.

I KNOW AUSTRALIAN IMMIGRATION LAW BY MY FINGER TIP!!!

SO PLEASE, SINGAPORE, PLEASE ..PLEASE AND PLEASE AGAIN,,,STOP OPENING UP YOUR REAR END SO READILY AND STENCH THE FRANGANCE OF THIS TR BLOG, is that ok with you of my little request???

Or is it too hard on your little narcissistic brain again???

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Go back to your panda zoo!!

singapore on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 4:15 pm

hey “anonymous”

i have found a subsidised yet high quality school for you to learn english and general knoweldge

http://www.minds.org.sg/

anonymous on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 4:34 pm

@ singapore on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 4:15 pm

Aussie PR or panda zoo PR, have you got?

ROTFLMAO

Avatar on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 4:45 pm

Foreigners now make up 36 per cent of Singapore’s population….
Two out of every three PR applications are successful

If say all of the 36% apply or PR, then;

23.99 % of new PAP votes to offset opposing votes.
23.99 % of new tax revenue.
23.99 % more excuse not to increase wages.
23.99 % (insert your own usage. Be creative)
Dun be deceived. This evil regime MUST be removed!

Bathsheba on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 5:02 pm

sumiko tan is total crap. she is nothing but an unintelligent, whiny spinster. why would you even read what she has to say? same for the rachel something that penned a huge article about engaging in cyberspace. what does she know?

these journalists spin the same papaya tales and you will be stupid to ever rely on the ST as your only source of knowledge and information.

singapore on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 5:05 pm

you get the pr in singapore and you have i think one year to land in australia before it expires. the moment you land in australia they validate it and you are a pr. so yes, you are a pr even before you live in australia.

you can swear at them and your pr probably wont be revoked. i recall one serbian guy who is an australian pr. he committed dozens of robberies, assualts and drug offences for a few decades and still has his pr status today lol. i have been at australia immi a lot of times and i have heard people swearing at the officers before as well, nothing happened to them.

you try that in singapore you will most likely be charged and fined or jailed under one of those obscure laws..maybe “insulting a public servant”.

what is with your lawyer fetish? is this another one of your games where you try your hardest to impress people? talk about low self esteem. at least try stringing together proper sentences before you start acting like a solicitor online. pathetic.

face it you will never be educated or somewhat intelligent in this life. you have a bad upbringing and it shows very clearly that you lack education and intelligence.

you can quote laws or quote the rainbows in the sky and you still wouldn’t be able to string together a proper sentence in english.

go drive a taxi. it suits your character to a t

anonymous on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 7:56 pm

singapore on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 5:05 pm

Wow, now the storyline changed again, huh…” the moment you land in australia they validate it and you are a pr…..”

Before they validate it, you already PR?????? Australian law must be perverted of logical coherence.

what are they validating? you a ladyboy and applied for PR stating as a call-girl as your declared occupation? Are they checking for possible section 116 (d) default of your application…”incorrect information given by holder” of this entry (NOT PR visa) awaiting validation??

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

And then this bullshit as usual of your habitual liar…

“i recall one serbian guy who is an australian pr. he committed dozens of robberies, assualts and drug offences for a few decades and still has his pr status today lol”

Well here is the home truth again

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/000200707161801.htm

Mohamed Haneef got his Australian PR cancelled on MERE SUSPICION (NOT PROVEN) OF defects “CHARACTER GROUNDS” WHEN ALL PROCEEDINGS of all accusations against him PROVED HIS COMPLETE INNOCENCE.

And your Serbian friend…committed dozens of robberies, assualts and drug offences for a few decades ….still a PR??

ROTFLMAO again.

Go back to your panda enclosure, Singapore, your PR is there, not Australia.

As for your PGCE, keep it in your panda pen, in case the animal keepers looking after you run out of toilet paper.

anonymous on Wed, 10th Feb 2010 9:11 pm

singapore on Tue, 9th Feb 2010 5:05 pm

Your USUAL BIG BULLSHITTING OF HABITUAL (not accidental) LIES in quote below

” i recall one serbian guy who is an australian pr. he committed dozens of robberies, assualts and drug offences for a few decades and still has his pr status today lol. ”

PLEASE EXPLAIN SECTION 501, MIGRATION ACT 1958 on refusal or cancellation of visa on character grounds. For the informed benefits of TR readers, here is the weblink followed by the relevant section

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ma1958118/s501.html

the relevant section of character grounds cancellation are

Sub-section (1) The Minister may refuse to grant a visa to a person if the person does not satisfy the Minister that the person passes the character test.

Note:Character test is defined by subsection (6).

(2) The Minister may cancel a visa that has been granted to a person if:

(a) the Minister reasonably suspects that the person does not pass the character test; and

(b) the person does not satisfy the Minister that the person passes the character test.

AND HERE IS SUBSECTION (6)

Character test

(6) For the purposes of this section, a person does not pass the character test if:

(a) the person has a substantial criminal record (as defined by subsection (7)); or

(b) the person has or has had an association with someone else, or with a group or organisation, whom the Minister reasonably suspects has been or is involved in criminal conduct; or

(i) the person’s past and present criminal conduct;

(ii) the person’s past and present general conduct;

the person is not of good character; or

(d) in the event the person were allowed to enter or to remain in Australia, there is a significant risk that the person would:

(i) engage in criminal conduct in Australia; or

(ii) harass, molest, intimidate or stalk another person in Australia; or

(iii) vilify a segment of the Australian community; or

(iv) incite discord in the Australian community or in a segment of that community; or

(v) represent a danger to the Australian community or to a segment of that community, whether by way of being liable to become involved in activities that are disruptive to, or in violence threatening harm to, that community or segment, or in any other way.

PLEASE NOTE THAT UNDER SECTION (6) (C) ( 2)…” the person’s past and present general conduct…” IF FAILED TO MEET THE CHARACTER TEST CAN RESULT IN VISA CANCELLATION.

SO, ‘SINGAPORE’ EXPLAIN TO US ALL HERE WHY SWEARING AT IMMIGRATION OFFICER DO NOT COME UNDER THE QUALIFYING CRITERIA OF “a peron’s past AND PRESENT GENERAL CONDUCT” liable the offender to his permanent visa refused or cancelled???

Note that it is NOT criminal conduct alone BUT PRESENT GENERAL CONDUCT under subsection (6) (C) (2) above if deemed not of good character is sufficient to qualify for visa cancellation on character grounds under section 501.

AND IF THE MATTER INVOLVED CRIMINAL CONDUCT AFTER THE GRANT OF VISA, THE SUBSTANTIVE TEST IS DEFINED IN SUBSECTION 7, which I shall quote the relevant below

Substantial criminal record

(7) For the purposes of the character test, a person has a substantial criminal record if:

(a) the person has been sentenced to death; or

(b) the person has been sentenced to imprisonment for life; or

SO, ‘SINGAPORE’ YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY THAT UNDER SUBSECTION (7) (C) ABOVE, a substantive jail sentence of 12 months or more qualify the criminal for visa cancellation on charcter grounds.

NOW PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW DID YOUR SERBIAN FRIEND…”who is an australian pr. AND ALLEGEDLY…” committed dozens of robberies, assualts and drug offences for a few decades ”

THE DOZENS OF ROBBERIES, ASSULTS AND DRUG OFFENCES FOR A FEW DECADES (of your description) QUALIFIED FOR TOTAL JAIL TERMS OF A FEW DECADES, HOW DID HIS VISA REMAIN NOT CANCELLED ON CHARACTER GROUNDS???

I AM SURE ALL THE TR READERS HERE WOULD BE MYSTIFIED TO BEWILDERMENT!!!

I AM SURE THEY WOULD BE EQUALLY MYSTIFIED HOW YOUR SERBIAN FRIEND COMMITTED TO PROLONGED JAIL SENTENCES OF A FEW DECADES INSIDE THE JAILS STILL ABLE TO COMMIT “dozens of robberies, assault and drug offences” INSIDE THE JAIL!!!!!!

My panda pet animal, “SINGAPORE”, you really don’t have any class even in lying BUT YOUR NARCISSISTIC NEUROTIC HABITS OF LIES DIE IMPOSSIBLY HARD in your poisoned hate-filled soul which reflect in your language applied.

Pity those kids in your teaching care. Your PGCE prove your downfall in verbosity of shallow thoughts so eloquently expressed often in all your TR bloggings.

May I rest my case of “inferior” English now?

Stephy on Sat, 13th Feb 2010 7:06 pm

Look guys, either we die a slow death or we accept these foreign talent. Has anyone come up with an alternative to foreign talent?

I find Singapore’s government is only concerned with GDP figures which obviously doesn’t mean anything for our standard of living. Our government is only concerned with paper figures. Still the foreign talent issue is quite important. Perhaps our fellow countrymen are too demanding, too pampered? Asking for high wages but putting in little effort? Look at the our personal situation too, we can’t compared yourselves to Australia or even Britain! Ridiculous comparisons. Singapore is such a small country, so the effects of a aging population would be greatly pronounced.

People are always complaining so so much foreign talent but where are the suggestions to solve the problem coming? In almost any comment anywhere about the foreign talent situation, there is hardly anybody coming up with a solution! It’s really easy to complain but not to actually solve it. Most of the young people don’t realize the real problem yet.

singapore on Mon, 15th Feb 2010 10:36 pm

Anonymous you moron.

“Mohammed Haneef” had his pr revoked because they suspected him of terrorism. not any small crime but TERRORISM. the aus govt did jump wrongly at it which i thought was not right.

his pr is now restored and he can go back to aus if he wants to.

as for the serbian fellow, his name is “Robert Jovicic” go google it.

waste of time talking to you, idiot. even my 8 year old cousin makes more sense than you.

singapore on Mon, 15th Feb 2010 10:39 pm

@Stephy

you said -> Look guys, either we die a slow death or we accept these foreign talent. Has anyone come up with an alternative to foreign talent?

why would you die a slow death if you cut down the number of forigners? wth are you talking about stephy?

more people means a bigger gdp but it doesnt mean a higher gdp per capita which is what matters.

luxembourg, bermuda, lichenstien, andorra etc all are smaller in population than us and their standard of living is way higher.

you are talking shit.

Sassafras on Fri, 19th Feb 2010 3:58 am

I think our government bit off a larger piece than they can chew. If they had taken the slow and steady rate, with the welfare of the citizens kept in mind, they would not have such /so many problems and outcries to deal with. Instead, they chose the flashy and fast booming path and now have to panic and try all sorts of cheap ways to keep the mainframe and reputation held up.

Perhaps alternative to foreign talents could be robotics? Isn’t that what Japan’s doing? Or is it too expensive for money-grabbing PAP?

Well, I’m definitely voting for change, and if it doesn’t change, I’m leaving. End of.