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		<title>By: A&#38;E</title>
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		<dc:creator>A&#38;E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fifty years&#039; time, the ones responsible for today&#039;s failed policies will be dead and buried. If you were pragmatic enough, you could put in place policies that boost numbers today but fail miserably in the more distant tomorrow. The short term credits will accrue to you; the mess, well, your successors will have to mop up.

Simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fifty years&#8217; time, the ones responsible for today&#8217;s failed policies will be dead and buried. If you were pragmatic enough, you could put in place policies that boost numbers today but fail miserably in the more distant tomorrow. The short term credits will accrue to you; the mess, well, your successors will have to mop up.</p>
<p>Simple.</p>
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		<title>By: And Now For MORE TRUTHS To BE TOLD ALOUD!!!...</title>
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		<dc:creator>And Now For MORE TRUTHS To BE TOLD ALOUD!!!...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T8kInEYNYY

And please don&#039;t gasp for breathe at Lim Swee Say&#039;s &quot;SAY&quot; about his CPF which is 10s of times way above the present minmum sum of near to $120,000. And isn&#039;t CPF-Life to LOCK-UP More of your CPF money by paying you back most slowly?...

My GOD... DO they have a LIQUIDITY PRBLEM... Or &#039;not&#039;!!!...

Think DEEP and SURELY SinGaPOOReans!!!... This last word IS FOR those who ARE Still GULLIBLE. And after watching that video... If you STILL ARE... may GOD HELP you!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to&#8230;</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T8kInEYNYY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T8kInEYNYY</a></p>
<p>And please don&#8217;t gasp for breathe at Lim Swee Say&#8217;s &#8220;SAY&#8221; about his CPF which is 10s of times way above the present minmum sum of near to $120,000. And isn&#8217;t CPF-Life to LOCK-UP More of your CPF money by paying you back most slowly?&#8230;</p>
<p>My GOD&#8230; DO they have a LIQUIDITY PRBLEM&#8230; Or &#8216;not&#8217;!!!&#8230;</p>
<p>Think DEEP and SURELY SinGaPOOReans!!!&#8230; This last word IS FOR those who ARE Still GULLIBLE. And after watching that video&#8230; If you STILL ARE&#8230; may GOD HELP you!!!</p>
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		<title>By: No One Will Be Left Behind  --   http://news.asiaone.com/News/NDP+Rally+2007/NDP+Rally+2007.html</title>
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		<dc:creator>No One Will Be Left Behind  --   http://news.asiaone.com/News/NDP+Rally+2007/NDP+Rally+2007.html</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IS THE BELOW A POLICY ERROR?



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http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC091126-0000059/Direct-lift-access-not-always-possible--HDB
Direct lift access not always possible: HDB

Letter from Chee Kheng Chye Deputy Director (Upgrading Programmes Management) Housing and Development Board (HDB) 05:55 AM Nov 26, 2009

WE THANK Mr Ryman Lim for his feedback on the newly-upgraded lifts (picture) at Block 340 Clementi Ave 5 (&quot;Not wheelchair-friendly at all&quot;, Nov 5).
The objective of the Lift Upgrading Programme (LUP) is to provide direct lift access to the flats for the convenience of residents. For most blocks, this has been achieved through the upgrading of existing lifts or the addition of a new lift. However, there is a small number of blocks where direct lift access is not possible due to site or technical constraints. Block 340 is one such block. 

HDB has earlier explored various options to overcome the site constraints. However, the only viable LUP solution then was a &quot;half-landing solution&quot;. While this solution could not provide direct access to the flats, it would improve the existing situation by reducing the number of steps that residents have to climb. Hence, the solution was supported by the residents for implementation. 

The blue stickers on the new lifts indicate that the lift car is wheelchair friendly as it comes with handrail bars, and the doors are wide enough to accommodate a wheelchair. It does not suggest that full barrier-free accessibility has been achieved. 

We empathise with Mr Lim&#039;s situation, and seek his understanding on the LUP solution implemented for his block.




-No One Will Be Left Behind-
http://news.asiaone.com/News/NDP+Rally+2007/NDP+Rally+2007.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IS THE BELOW A POLICY ERROR?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
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<a href="http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC091126-0000059/Direct-lift-access-not-always-possible--HDB" rel="nofollow">http://www.todayonline.com/Voices/EDC091126-0000059/Direct-lift-access-not-always-possible&#8211;HDB</a><br />
Direct lift access not always possible: HDB</p>
<p>Letter from Chee Kheng Chye Deputy Director (Upgrading Programmes Management) Housing and Development Board (HDB) 05:55 AM Nov 26, 2009</p>
<p>WE THANK Mr Ryman Lim for his feedback on the newly-upgraded lifts (picture) at Block 340 Clementi Ave 5 (&#8221;Not wheelchair-friendly at all&#8221;, Nov 5).<br />
The objective of the Lift Upgrading Programme (LUP) is to provide direct lift access to the flats for the convenience of residents. For most blocks, this has been achieved through the upgrading of existing lifts or the addition of a new lift. However, there is a small number of blocks where direct lift access is not possible due to site or technical constraints. Block 340 is one such block. </p>
<p>HDB has earlier explored various options to overcome the site constraints. However, the only viable LUP solution then was a &#8220;half-landing solution&#8221;. While this solution could not provide direct access to the flats, it would improve the existing situation by reducing the number of steps that residents have to climb. Hence, the solution was supported by the residents for implementation. </p>
<p>The blue stickers on the new lifts indicate that the lift car is wheelchair friendly as it comes with handrail bars, and the doors are wide enough to accommodate a wheelchair. It does not suggest that full barrier-free accessibility has been achieved. </p>
<p>We empathise with Mr Lim&#8217;s situation, and seek his understanding on the LUP solution implemented for his block.</p>
<p>-No One Will Be Left Behind-<br />
<a href="http://news.asiaone.com/News/NDP+Rally+2007/NDP+Rally+2007.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.asiaone.com/News/NDP+Rally+2007/NDP+Rally+2007.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Truth Be told</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Truth Be told</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil Bishop

Your comments certainly reflect the character of LKY. This is a man of many moods and wears many faces expedient to the circumstances he is in. During the Japanese occupation of Singapore he acted as an &quot;interpreter&quot; (informer) through natural instinct for self-preservation.

After the Japanese surrender, he left for England to pursue his law studies and took up the name &quot;Harry Lee&quot; to reflect his Western Oriented Gentleman (WOG) appeal. Upon his return to Singapore and while campaigning for the municipal elections for self-rule in 1959 he quickly dropped the &quot;Harry&quot; prefix in his name and mingled with the Chinese crowd as only LKY, no Harry, no WOG appeal, but just another guy in the predominantly Chinese crowd - all done out of political expediency.

He has been playing this &quot;race&quot; card all along. There are many imperfection in his view of things, and he has made many mistakes in understanding the ground, one typical example of this is as follows :

In the early eighties he claimed that the western educated Singaporeans were more self-centred than the Chinese educated (this was a fallacy). This was his prelude to launch the Speak Mandarin Campaign. He failed to study the ground, that most of the voluntary charity work were done by and assumed by western institutions and the expatriate community. And the Chinese educated were very inhibited, a closed society at large. Their self-centredness even took on the linquistic form, eg. they don&#039;t call Singapore by name, but by general reference as wo-guo (my country) as similarly done in China. And China is called as chong-guo (middle kingdom). Humility is far from being a virtue, to think that they are at the centre of the world ! And how do they call the Caucasians ? &quot;Yang-ren&quot; meaning goat people ! Self-centred and racist. Darkie toothpaste has been replaced by &quot;Darlie&quot; to remove the racist content, but the Chinese word on the product remains as &quot;hei-ren&quot; meaning dark person. LKY need to chew his own words and swallow them.

And there were many other mistakes, such as long hair policy was being looked upon as a sign of western decadence (the Japanese renowned musical genius Kitaro was refused entry to perform here because he had shoulder length hair), Formula 
1 Grand Prix rejected because he could see no gain (he forgot the economic factor), the stop at two policy in family planning and asking for women to go for irreversible ligation, closing down Nanyang University saying Singapore did not need 2 universities (and now they are talking of starting a 5th university!), and many many more. 

Trouble is, all these are being played down and swept under the rug by the state controlled media, while successful policies and their results are being touted day in and day out. And through this process of osmosis Singaporeans in general, especially the younger generation, come to believe that he is all God and all holy. This is the travesty of injustice here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil Bishop</p>
<p>Your comments certainly reflect the character of LKY. This is a man of many moods and wears many faces expedient to the circumstances he is in. During the Japanese occupation of Singapore he acted as an &#8220;interpreter&#8221; (informer) through natural instinct for self-preservation.</p>
<p>After the Japanese surrender, he left for England to pursue his law studies and took up the name &#8220;Harry Lee&#8221; to reflect his Western Oriented Gentleman (WOG) appeal. Upon his return to Singapore and while campaigning for the municipal elections for self-rule in 1959 he quickly dropped the &#8220;Harry&#8221; prefix in his name and mingled with the Chinese crowd as only LKY, no Harry, no WOG appeal, but just another guy in the predominantly Chinese crowd &#8211; all done out of political expediency.</p>
<p>He has been playing this &#8220;race&#8221; card all along. There are many imperfection in his view of things, and he has made many mistakes in understanding the ground, one typical example of this is as follows :</p>
<p>In the early eighties he claimed that the western educated Singaporeans were more self-centred than the Chinese educated (this was a fallacy). This was his prelude to launch the Speak Mandarin Campaign. He failed to study the ground, that most of the voluntary charity work were done by and assumed by western institutions and the expatriate community. And the Chinese educated were very inhibited, a closed society at large. Their self-centredness even took on the linquistic form, eg. they don&#8217;t call Singapore by name, but by general reference as wo-guo (my country) as similarly done in China. And China is called as chong-guo (middle kingdom). Humility is far from being a virtue, to think that they are at the centre of the world ! And how do they call the Caucasians ? &#8220;Yang-ren&#8221; meaning goat people ! Self-centred and racist. Darkie toothpaste has been replaced by &#8220;Darlie&#8221; to remove the racist content, but the Chinese word on the product remains as &#8220;hei-ren&#8221; meaning dark person. LKY need to chew his own words and swallow them.</p>
<p>And there were many other mistakes, such as long hair policy was being looked upon as a sign of western decadence (the Japanese renowned musical genius Kitaro was refused entry to perform here because he had shoulder length hair), Formula<br />
1 Grand Prix rejected because he could see no gain (he forgot the economic factor), the stop at two policy in family planning and asking for women to go for irreversible ligation, closing down Nanyang University saying Singapore did not need 2 universities (and now they are talking of starting a 5th university!), and many many more. </p>
<p>Trouble is, all these are being played down and swept under the rug by the state controlled media, while successful policies and their results are being touted day in and day out. And through this process of osmosis Singaporeans in general, especially the younger generation, come to believe that he is all God and all holy. This is the travesty of injustice here.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cy on Sat, 28th Nov 2009 11:36 am

...elites may know more, but they still need to listen to the non-elites as they are not experts in everything...

I really earnestly wish that statement above is true in ALL instance - at least on public policy deliberation. Just reading through bloggers&#039; comments on TR of utterances by &quot;elites&quot;, I, sometimes, almost fell of my chair and ROTFLMAO.

At other times, it is patently clear that hot air has been freely trumpeted either in the reckless or false belief of ALL others don&#039;t know the truth or in the expectation of some conditioning of minds of the audience in the assumption of the lack of publicly informed knowledge of knowing truth.

But that is also how politicians survive - on a diet of rhetorics which the sane informed mind already knows is the cousin of blatant lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cy on Sat, 28th Nov 2009 11:36 am</p>
<p>&#8230;elites may know more, but they still need to listen to the non-elites as they are not experts in everything&#8230;</p>
<p>I really earnestly wish that statement above is true in ALL instance &#8211; at least on public policy deliberation. Just reading through bloggers&#8217; comments on TR of utterances by &#8220;elites&#8221;, I, sometimes, almost fell of my chair and ROTFLMAO.</p>
<p>At other times, it is patently clear that hot air has been freely trumpeted either in the reckless or false belief of ALL others don&#8217;t know the truth or in the expectation of some conditioning of minds of the audience in the assumption of the lack of publicly informed knowledge of knowing truth.</p>
<p>But that is also how politicians survive &#8211; on a diet of rhetorics which the sane informed mind already knows is the cousin of blatant lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalis Rain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalis Rain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Anybody who decides to take me on needs to put on knuckle dusters. If you think you can hurt me more than I can hurt you, try. There is no other way you can govern a Chinese society.”

And the lesson on knuckle dusters, especially when it is so openly announced &amp; validated by some influential people within a society,  will be passed from generation after generation and some society will have internalised that knuckle dusters, when all other possible better means fail to go their way, are the only best way forward to an end. 

And as the story goes, certain society is still stuck in the primitive age of knuckle dusters and whoever can master the art of using knuckle dusters, more than anything else, shall prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Anybody who decides to take me on needs to put on knuckle dusters. If you think you can hurt me more than I can hurt you, try. There is no other way you can govern a Chinese society.”</p>
<p>And the lesson on knuckle dusters, especially when it is so openly announced &amp; validated by some influential people within a society,  will be passed from generation after generation and some society will have internalised that knuckle dusters, when all other possible better means fail to go their way, are the only best way forward to an end. </p>
<p>And as the story goes, certain society is still stuck in the primitive age of knuckle dusters and whoever can master the art of using knuckle dusters, more than anything else, shall prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It never ceases to amaze me how profoundly racist Lee Kuan Yew is, even about his own race! The quote in the article and other comments he has made subscribe to the notion that Chinese are mindless, conformist drones who must be told what to do else chaos reigns. If any Westerner, Indian or Malay publicly stated such things he would be howled down for the sheer racism of the comment. But Lee Kuan Yew gets away with it.
The Singaporean Government can never be open because of the enormity of the mistakes made by the Lee Family. We&#039;ve seen part of it with the publicly announced losses in Temasek and GIC but the truth is far worse. LKY and his son cannot afford for the full truth to be revealed because it would lead to chaos and to the end of the old man&#039;s reputation for good government.
Chia Hern Keng&#039;s comments are 100% correct but it&#039;s not going to happen. The Lee Family needs secrecy. It has too much to hide... and too much to lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It never ceases to amaze me how profoundly racist Lee Kuan Yew is, even about his own race! The quote in the article and other comments he has made subscribe to the notion that Chinese are mindless, conformist drones who must be told what to do else chaos reigns. If any Westerner, Indian or Malay publicly stated such things he would be howled down for the sheer racism of the comment. But Lee Kuan Yew gets away with it.<br />
The Singaporean Government can never be open because of the enormity of the mistakes made by the Lee Family. We&#8217;ve seen part of it with the publicly announced losses in Temasek and GIC but the truth is far worse. LKY and his son cannot afford for the full truth to be revealed because it would lead to chaos and to the end of the old man&#8217;s reputation for good government.<br />
Chia Hern Keng&#8217;s comments are 100% correct but it&#8217;s not going to happen. The Lee Family needs secrecy. It has too much to hide&#8230; and too much to lose.</p>
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		<title>By: cy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in the age of crowdsourcing, it is foolish to keep ppl in the dark, harping the theory of &quot;elites know best&quot;.

instead it should be &quot;elites may know more, but they still need to listen to the non-elites as they are not experts in everything&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the age of crowdsourcing, it is foolish to keep ppl in the dark, harping the theory of &#8220;elites know best&#8221;.</p>
<p>instead it should be &#8220;elites may know more, but they still need to listen to the non-elites as they are not experts in everything&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Yes, we want Freedom of Information Laws for transparency and public accountability of all public policy issues - the implications of which is NOT just relevant to any incumbent party in power but for Singapore&#039;s survival and future prosperity.

The reality is that no one has a monopoly of wisdom. We are sseing now the enormity of tragic consequences of past policy failures in education, population planning, economic survival and in the future, we will likely to see irretrievable tragic outcome of our ill-considered liberal immigration policy burdening all sectors of our economy and society.

Policy issues have to be frequently, openly and publicly debated and changes made where deficiencies are detected early enough.

It is fatal when one discovers 5th stage cancer affliction, is that not true, anyone???

Autocracy cannot offer any hope of our survival in this turbulent world - that must be humbly acknowledged by all, regardless. 

We spoke recently of brighter economic outlook in 2010 only last week. And now the Dubai financial meltdown is sending tsunami shockwaves through global equities, currency and commodities markets - can autocracy of one man or a few men&#039; visions work in this kind of turbulence when opportunities and tragic failures heaped upon us in milliseconds??? 

We want a Singapore for future generations, not for us now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Yes, we want Freedom of Information Laws for transparency and public accountability of all public policy issues &#8211; the implications of which is NOT just relevant to any incumbent party in power but for Singapore&#8217;s survival and future prosperity.</p>
<p>The reality is that no one has a monopoly of wisdom. We are sseing now the enormity of tragic consequences of past policy failures in education, population planning, economic survival and in the future, we will likely to see irretrievable tragic outcome of our ill-considered liberal immigration policy burdening all sectors of our economy and society.</p>
<p>Policy issues have to be frequently, openly and publicly debated and changes made where deficiencies are detected early enough.</p>
<p>It is fatal when one discovers 5th stage cancer affliction, is that not true, anyone???</p>
<p>Autocracy cannot offer any hope of our survival in this turbulent world &#8211; that must be humbly acknowledged by all, regardless. </p>
<p>We spoke recently of brighter economic outlook in 2010 only last week. And now the Dubai financial meltdown is sending tsunami shockwaves through global equities, currency and commodities markets &#8211; can autocracy of one man or a few men&#8217; visions work in this kind of turbulence when opportunities and tragic failures heaped upon us in milliseconds??? </p>
<p>We want a Singapore for future generations, not for us now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Chua Lee Bai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Chua Lee Bai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its good that TR bring up the Word of Caution :

&quot;Singaporeans had better prayed hard the government will not admit its mistakes in today’s policies in a few decades’ time, especially its liberal immigration policy.

By the time the mistake is finally realized, Singaporeans may end up being a minority in their own country.
&quot;

This can serve as a record in public domain that people have raised up this concern this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its good that TR bring up the Word of Caution :</p>
<p>&#8220;Singaporeans had better prayed hard the government will not admit its mistakes in today’s policies in a few decades’ time, especially its liberal immigration policy.</p>
<p>By the time the mistake is finally realized, Singaporeans may end up being a minority in their own country.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>This can serve as a record in public domain that people have raised up this concern this year.</p>
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