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	<title>Comments on: Indian engineer wants Singapore to recognize more &#8220;degrees&#8221; from Indian technical institutes</title>
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		<title>By: Az</title>
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		<dc:creator>Az</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isn&#039;t Indonesians cheap too? they can do as much work as the china or india folks

racist...period hahah...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#8217;t Indonesians cheap too? they can do as much work as the china or india folks</p>
<p>racist&#8230;period hahah&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bemused</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bemused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do not consider IIT graduates to be foreign talent then it only shows the lack of knowledge prevailing here. Some of the comments here are hilarious. 

Clearly you have no access to unbiased information in this country hence have misinformed judgments about other countries and their people.

If India is a gigantic slum then why are Singapore companies queuing up there? You have no market of your own and therefore going around the world asking for free trade. When you face competition in the only market you have (labour force) you cry foul?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do not consider IIT graduates to be foreign talent then it only shows the lack of knowledge prevailing here. Some of the comments here are hilarious. </p>
<p>Clearly you have no access to unbiased information in this country hence have misinformed judgments about other countries and their people.</p>
<p>If India is a gigantic slum then why are Singapore companies queuing up there? You have no market of your own and therefore going around the world asking for free trade. When you face competition in the only market you have (labour force) you cry foul?</p>
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		<title>By: inevitable</title>
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		<dc:creator>inevitable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they buy their own degree from degree mills. so indian engineer think singapore is too strict? we have grounds to be strict when degree mills are so common everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they buy their own degree from degree mills. so indian engineer think singapore is too strict? we have grounds to be strict when degree mills are so common everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: fckupap</title>
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		<dc:creator>fckupap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these Indian engineers from IIT are so good, they should stay in India to build up the infrastructure. It is a joke that the Indian nationals are asking for international recognition in engineering but the country is a gigantic slum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these Indian engineers from IIT are so good, they should stay in India to build up the infrastructure. It is a joke that the Indian nationals are asking for international recognition in engineering but the country is a gigantic slum.</p>
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		<title>By: Jobless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jobless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have to be careful of taking in too many Indians from the sub-continent with fake degrees. Whether competent or not, they can be vocal troublemakers.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T1K4FVV6QOGPDRUDF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have to be careful of taking in too many Indians from the sub-continent with fake degrees. Whether competent or not, they can be vocal troublemakers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T1K4FVV6QOGPDRUDF" rel="nofollow">http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T1K4FVV6QOGPDRUDF</a></p>
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		<title>By: Old Guy 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Guy 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>##  Old Guy on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 3:47 pm 


WORK or PLEASURE ?

Pleasure ?
Welcome to singapore !!
My Friend !!

Work ?
Get Lost !!
Bloody Foreigner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>##  Old Guy on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 3:47 pm </p>
<p>WORK or PLEASURE ?</p>
<p>Pleasure ?<br />
Welcome to singapore !!<br />
My Friend !!</p>
<p>Work ?<br />
Get Lost !!<br />
Bloody Foreigner.</p>
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		<title>By: citizenofSG</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizenofSG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is extremely challenging to bring more IT Indian professional into Singapore. They  are very cheap to employ. If you bring in a top grade Indian professional to work in Singapore, he is willing to earn less than a polytechnic student in Singapore.

Our own people will have a problem to curb with the influx.

Being a Singaporean, living in Singapore paying Singapore&#039;s living standard how to compete with these Indian whose pay are meager back in India.
However if we do not allow them to come here, then job will go there, we are caught in catch 22.

The American&#039;s presence in India inevitably resulting in the transfers of technology, hence the Indians have gained tremendous experience. 

For those who employed faked Indian professionals, it is probably the system of screening is slack and too dependent on third parties. However it is better to give lower weightage to paper qualification but to take in more based on their experience instead. We can produce our own cohort of paper qualified engineers without major problem, we need not bring paper qualified Indians just to compete with locals. 

We must only draw their top grade&#039;s engineers to work with our inexperience locals to gain from their experience. There must be real technology transfer else it is better that we don&#039;t have any of them over. 

Singapore government must measure the technology gain with these people coming over to work and not looking at the dollars and cents. If our focus is technology gain then paper qualified engineers doesn&#039;t measure up much. The net transfer of technology is more permanent while the economical factor varies at different times. In the process we must grow our local pool of professionals and not merely depending on foreigners. 

There is no need to keep bringing these people and giving them PR. We must upgrade our people to be as good as them, anyway in time to come the cheaply imported people pay will rise to that of our very own or our people down to theirs. Things will eventually just balance out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is extremely challenging to bring more IT Indian professional into Singapore. They  are very cheap to employ. If you bring in a top grade Indian professional to work in Singapore, he is willing to earn less than a polytechnic student in Singapore.</p>
<p>Our own people will have a problem to curb with the influx.</p>
<p>Being a Singaporean, living in Singapore paying Singapore&#8217;s living standard how to compete with these Indian whose pay are meager back in India.<br />
However if we do not allow them to come here, then job will go there, we are caught in catch 22.</p>
<p>The American&#8217;s presence in India inevitably resulting in the transfers of technology, hence the Indians have gained tremendous experience. </p>
<p>For those who employed faked Indian professionals, it is probably the system of screening is slack and too dependent on third parties. However it is better to give lower weightage to paper qualification but to take in more based on their experience instead. We can produce our own cohort of paper qualified engineers without major problem, we need not bring paper qualified Indians just to compete with locals. </p>
<p>We must only draw their top grade&#8217;s engineers to work with our inexperience locals to gain from their experience. There must be real technology transfer else it is better that we don&#8217;t have any of them over. </p>
<p>Singapore government must measure the technology gain with these people coming over to work and not looking at the dollars and cents. If our focus is technology gain then paper qualified engineers doesn&#8217;t measure up much. The net transfer of technology is more permanent while the economical factor varies at different times. In the process we must grow our local pool of professionals and not merely depending on foreigners. </p>
<p>There is no need to keep bringing these people and giving them PR. We must upgrade our people to be as good as them, anyway in time to come the cheaply imported people pay will rise to that of our very own or our people down to theirs. Things will eventually just balance out.</p>
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		<title>By: John Potus</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Potus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pringles on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 9:44 pm 

Using fake CVs is a very common problem among the Indian IT engineers working in Singapore. I came across a few who obviously didn&#039;t know what they were doing.

Funny enough, Indian nationals using fake CVs is a very common problem in India as well.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Software/Fake-CVs-are-ruining-IT/articleshow/1638027.cms

Employers don&#039;t really want to know because they only want cheap foreign labour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pringles on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 9:44 pm </p>
<p>Using fake CVs is a very common problem among the Indian IT engineers working in Singapore. I came across a few who obviously didn&#8217;t know what they were doing.</p>
<p>Funny enough, Indian nationals using fake CVs is a very common problem in India as well.</p>
<p><a href="http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Software/Fake-CVs-are-ruining-IT/articleshow/1638027.cms" rel="nofollow">http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Software/Fake-CVs-are-ruining-IT/articleshow/1638027.cms</a></p>
<p>Employers don&#8217;t really want to know because they only want cheap foreign labour.</p>
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		<title>By: robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, TR, but this smacks of a personal agenda - more like an opinion than a piece of news. i agree with Newhik that you may have jumped the gun.

and from the article, we do sound like a bunch of xenophobics - which i&#039;m pretty sure many of us are not. we&#039;re actually very concerned with the screening process and how PRship is given. what is worse that the govt has not been very transparent with their recent policies. 

furthermore, there are positions in the IT sector which lack local talent. where else would companies turn to to get good IT talent? india does have very prestigious IT-centric unis. 

&quot;The relentless influx of engineers from India and China has helped depress the wages of local engineers. Some of them are actually assistant engineers taking on the roles of qualified engineers at a lower pay.&quot; 

this is too much of a sweeping statement. you simply are meshing the influx of china chinese (who are mostly in front line service positions and labourers) together with engineers from india because it&#039;s convenient to point the finger at them for depressing wages.

and putting &quot;degrees&quot; withing inverted commas suggest that we look down on indians. just because they are a developing nation, they are incapable of producing talent with legit qualifications?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, TR, but this smacks of a personal agenda &#8211; more like an opinion than a piece of news. i agree with Newhik that you may have jumped the gun.</p>
<p>and from the article, we do sound like a bunch of xenophobics &#8211; which i&#8217;m pretty sure many of us are not. we&#8217;re actually very concerned with the screening process and how PRship is given. what is worse that the govt has not been very transparent with their recent policies. </p>
<p>furthermore, there are positions in the IT sector which lack local talent. where else would companies turn to to get good IT talent? india does have very prestigious IT-centric unis. </p>
<p>&#8220;The relentless influx of engineers from India and China has helped depress the wages of local engineers. Some of them are actually assistant engineers taking on the roles of qualified engineers at a lower pay.&#8221; </p>
<p>this is too much of a sweeping statement. you simply are meshing the influx of china chinese (who are mostly in front line service positions and labourers) together with engineers from india because it&#8217;s convenient to point the finger at them for depressing wages.</p>
<p>and putting &#8220;degrees&#8221; withing inverted commas suggest that we look down on indians. just because they are a developing nation, they are incapable of producing talent with legit qualifications?</p>
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		<title>By: fair and square</title>
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		<dc:creator>fair and square</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES!bring them in by the &quot;truck-loads&quot;!let&#039;em swamp us!
we have just nus,ntu,smu and a few polys,yet so many people
are kicked out of jobs and are still out of work and the policy-makers still think they are great at &quot;job-creation&quot;?
even the FED&#039;s Bernanke and his boss OBAMA have got a problem
with humongous US citizens&#039; UNEMPLOYMENT!!!
These folks are just great at DESTRUCTION,DON&#039;T BE FOLLED AGAIN!YOUR TICKET TO A BETTER BRIGHTER FUTURE LIES IN YOUR VERY OWN HANDS...JUST USE THE PEN CORRECTLY THE NEXT TIME YOU GO TO THE POLLING STATIONS!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES!bring them in by the &#8220;truck-loads&#8221;!let&#8217;em swamp us!<br />
we have just nus,ntu,smu and a few polys,yet so many people<br />
are kicked out of jobs and are still out of work and the policy-makers still think they are great at &#8220;job-creation&#8221;?<br />
even the FED&#8217;s Bernanke and his boss OBAMA have got a problem<br />
with humongous US citizens&#8217; UNEMPLOYMENT!!!<br />
These folks are just great at DESTRUCTION,DON&#8217;T BE FOLLED AGAIN!YOUR TICKET TO A BETTER BRIGHTER FUTURE LIES IN YOUR VERY OWN HANDS&#8230;JUST USE THE PEN CORRECTLY THE NEXT TIME YOU GO TO THE POLLING STATIONS!!!</p>
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