ck on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 9:36 am 

Lee Kuan Yew shot back:

“Of course there are Chinese millionaires in big cars and big houses. Is it the answer to make a few Malay millionaires with big cars and big houses? … If we delude people into believing that they are poor because there are no Malay rights or because opposition members oppose Malay rights, where are we going to end up?”

Incredible foresight by LKY. I am glad Singapore is kicked out from Malaysia. A blessing in disguise.

Lah Lah on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 9:56 am 

Can anyone put that documentary on Youtube or not? Please lah.

Mad Hatter on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 11:21 am 

whatever this mah ahmed said, he should look into the mirror to reflect on himself. this ahmed is as disgusted as his enemy he portrayed them to be.

Derrick on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 1:00 pm 

Mahathir’s real Indian Moslem name is Mohmmed Kutty s/o Ibrahim. This was what He was known as back then when studying in Singapore’s Medical School. And to become “Malay” he and his descendents now are previleged “bumiputras” for State handouts & entitlements.

He was once interviewed by the Australian press about the infamous NEP (ongoing for more than 40 years) that discriminates against its non-Moslem citizens in all spheres.

Cunning as he was he blamed it on the then PM Razak (father of MongolainNajib) for initiating it and that he had no part in it.

Lately, in support of UMNO against Pakatan, when his son who is now a State Cabinet Minister, he decalred that the NEP should continue indefinitely. If you had read in the press, his reason has also changed (perhaps after seeing how the Chinese in China, Taiwan, HK and Singapore perform)from the Chinese swindling the Malays to “how to compete with a people with a 5 000 years old civilization”.
How many heads does a snake have?

William Su on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 1:11 pm 

That guy is a real sicko.

He spewed poison & bit his successor, Badawi, almost daily, after Badawi failed to carry on with his projects (presumably some undertable work has taken place) upon his ascension.

It’s obvious that personal interest came first than the party then. The rest is history. Badawi eventually had to bow out.

Remember when Najib was appointed PM, Marthathir was among the first to personally visit him to offer well wishes. Guess who he brought along with him. What happened next is anyone guess.

And Justice For All on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 1:11 pm 

For the information of some readers from our newer generation, LKY started the Democratic Action Party (DAP) in Malaysia in the early 60’s with the object of contesting the Malaysian elections and if, upon winning it, to supplant himself as the PM of Malaysia (Singapore was too small a country for him to rule – his ego was already stretched long ago in his youth).

And he was attacked in one of his campaign trails in Malaysia during that period when he was edged into a drain and one of his bodyguards was stabbed while protecting him. The Malay ground was not with him and this was the precipice which forced the then Malaysian PM, Tengku Abdul Rahman, with the decision to throw Singapore out of the federation in the interests of preventing racial strife and riots from destroying the country. This was a consensual agreement as LKY finally realised that he could not play his ego card on the Malays even though he had a very good grounding in the language. This Baba son grew up without speaking a single word of Chinese dialect or Mandarin in his youth.

He only learned Hokkien through a crash course in the late fifties when he contested the 1959 municipal elections because he needed to win over the Hokkien ground, as this was the dialect that touched base with the people. His current focus on Mandarin (partly because of commercial interests and partly because it was a condition imposed by the then Chinese strong man, Deng Xiao Peng, in 1985 in return for China’s withdrawal of support for the Malayan Communist Party) is destroying our cultural roots here. He doesn’t know that there is actually no such thing as a Mandarin culture – there is only a Hokkien culture, a Cantonese culture, a Teochew culture, and so on. The Chinese in China have cultures that are reflective of the region they live or come from. Mandarin is only a unifying language they use, a common tool of communication for a vast population speaking in so many indigenous languages. In fact, Mandarin was only a language of the elites and were spoken mainly in the capital and administrative cities in earlier times.

Every sociologists know for a fact that language is born and shaped by indigenous factors. The culture of any society is based on its environment, and shaped by them. Shifts in population patterns also result in shifts in cultural practices, and these also take into account certain aspects of Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection.

This guy made a lot of mistakes in the past. But these were quickly swept aside under the rug by compliant lieutenants who would immediately come to his rescue by creating distractions elsewhere. We have seen this being done many times before.

Goshen on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 1:18 pm 

This Dr. M guy from the other side of the Causeway is well known to be unhappy of anyone who is better & smarter than him. He should read the latest TI Corruption Index on Malaysia. Neither he nor UMNO have been able to do an honest day of work running the country.

smallfly on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 1:28 pm 

oh! dear hatter, fully agree with you! both “dirty-old-men” r as disgusted n despicable as the reflection of each other, the only difference between them is that, lky is smarter to have established his empire by grooming his son to be the pm, so to correct “mah ahmed”, lky is not only a ‘litter emperor’, he has a dynasty, with him the ‘litter emperor’ himself, his son the ‘litter prince-also king, pm mah!’, his daughter-in-law the “litter prince cum king’s wife–queen”, ‘wow’, so confuse n ‘incestuous’!

Bemused on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 1:49 pm 

MM really had great foresight & we are lucky Singapore sepreated.In fact many of the malays are not bhumiputra’s at all (like Mahatir) but simply immigrants from Indonesia & India.

The real bhumiputras are the ‘Orang Asli’, they are not muslim and since the Malaysian govt can’t bear this they put islamic conversion certificates along with RM 500 notes through their doors. In fact even the word bhumi-putra (meaning son of the soil) comes from Sanskrit (original Indian language).

If one takes hikes in the Cameron Highlands and meets the ‘Orang Asli’ villagers they will relate their plight. So much for a moderate islamic state.

Mel on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 1:56 pm 

I think that while many of us are not comfortabl with the hard handed tactics of LKY, there are some things that we have to give him credit for.

I do not dooubt “Justice for all” says about him being an egomaniac. In fact, I suspect that the hardline tactics that they employ during the elections are primarily stemmed from a contempt for the inability of the general populace to think rationally for themselves and possibly elect a government that works. You would find it hard to convince me that a totally new government would be so inept that the foundations that have been laid and largely managed via various sub-hierachies of government and statutory boards would crumble. Of course, we have never been given the chance to witness this for ourselves so it is all speculation at this point.

But I digress. The thing that I really want to say most about LKY is that for a man that is supposedly hugely egotistical, he is able to change with the winds very easily and has no qualms about getting down and dirty to ensure that his plans succeed. It would be much easier to be stubborn and not come down from his pedestal and not bother to learn dialects and mandarin or pander to the whims of countries that we have been economically dependent on.

Is LKY a man that is hugely misunderstood and just a typical overachiever who happens to be in power?

Old Guy on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 2:02 pm 

Old man fighting with our OLD MAN..

how dare you speak against LKY !!

he is the REAL singapore idol !!

ALL must worship him !!

fair and square on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 2:02 pm 

if only top and brilliant politicians from all over this small
and worn-out planet work collaboratively and more selflessly with each other,the peoples of all nations would be the better
off!!!
everywhere,from USA to China to the smallest “speck” of a red dot on earth nad its slightly larger neighbour,policticans are
most of the time thinking warily of their own self-interest and
personal glorification tather than for the populace’s interests
anfd for honour….people must bt thinking how silly of me to make such statements?!
Well,the truth is that all over the wolrd common citizens are
annoyed and mostly unsatisfied with their governments’ perfromances and why is that so?..Simply because their leaders
who promised to look into their larger interests almost always
forgotten what they had earlier promised during “campaigning”
and merely take care of ther own self-interests and that of a few priveledged others!!!
why’s wrong with DR M is mostly the same problem/s with most other famous politicians-they are always VAIN!
If for some reasons their pride or ego is hurt,they would almost certainly draw their swprds out;sometimes at the expense
of thei more mild-mannered and cohesive citizens.
If only the smart and intelligent leaders from political to business work with each other in true WISDOM,the wolrd would more likely be a much safer better place that it is today!!!
i could hear…unemploymet,hunger,disasters,wars,border squabbles and a whole lot others echoing all over this little
“globalised” and interconnected world of ours!
vanities..all is vanity!!!

Political SalesMaN on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 2:07 pm 

Mahathir is Mah Boh Tan cousin brother!

And Justice For All on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 2:29 pm 

Derrick

You have spot on in your critique on Kutty. Perhaps you may want to visit http://www.Malaysiatoday.net which is one containing a lot of dirty linen on Kutty and his protege, the current incumbent PM Najib (whose father, Tun Razak, bailed this Indian-turned-Malay out from the political doldrums of UMNO in the late early 70’s).

kop on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 3:53 pm 

LKY can teabag, Mahathirs balls, his whole life, is Malaysia at the mercy of any single one nations knob , is singapore?
LKY, you are indeed a little twat, look at the ethnic ratio of posts in the customs and the police force and you will just see for your self, that mahathir knew of this swine..
im glad he sticked it to him,
Singapore Mental Minister!! racist pig!!!!!!!

cy on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 5:01 pm 

i still remember the rally speeches that LKY gave were also very long and full of charts.

PAIN KILLER on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 5:04 pm 

OMG OMG, how easy for u guys to say untrue things about former PM Mahathir…Fyi, all Singaporeans just lick & sauce Lee Kuan Yew’s balls & talk behind his back…he even creted a post for himself, not wanting to step down. His family owns half of singapore…What is nowed by LKY & his family…even d PM position is family-run…

Political SalesMaN on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 5:26 pm 

What a fuss U comment! This is just a political wayang plot.
Something coming out! Just like the dispute of the Water treaty.New product of New Water comming to the market,Scath the people don’t accept it. These two Old farts just quarrel over it, And Later the people was being bluff.

Henry on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 6:20 pm 

When MM descended into the Malaysian Parliament then he being a seasoned lawyer spoke in eloquent Malay; better than the Malaysian Malays. Arguing passionately for a “Malaysian Malaysia” not a “Malay Malaysia”.
That sent shivers down the spines of ultras like Mad-hathir Kutty & his fellow cronies.
Seats were subsequently lost in Singapore & 1 in Malaysia to the PAP/DAP. Mind you these were Malay majority wards!
What did Md-hathir & his henchmen Dato Harun do is history. The Tengku was then maneuvered out and May 13 descended upon Malaysia engineered by you-know-who to enact the now infamous NEP. 1000s perished. In fact, Mad-hathir has the blood of innocent defenceless citizens on his hands.
Surprisingly, the Malays today from both sides of the causeway took abt 40 years to realise what MM said 40 years ago to be true. That he could give a better life to all. Today S$1 = RM2.5 and our Singaporean Malays in this resourceless, tiny islnad has an average per capita income that is much higher than their counterparts across the causeway where land, minerals, water, energy, etc., are in abundance.
Now we know why Pakatan has come about when the non-Muslim Indians & Chinese votes alone don’t count after millions of Muslim Indonesians have been imported over the years to become Malaysians as well. Some time ago, an UNMO Minister of Turkish descent, Hishammudin was shown on national tv brandising the dagger (kris) for you-know-who to see and to submit to the apartheid NEP.
Reflect . . . That’s history.

David on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 7:23 pm 

Mahathir claimed to be 22 years as 4th PM of Malaysia & also the longest yet most ineffective to bring Malaysians togetherness as a cohesive family in dream of a world’s nation with colourful & multi-racial & mutlti-religion rich in history among Southeast Asia. He could has worked out the standard of international language English for better & high standard of competitive leverage for all Malaysians in today global world but he failed/ignored to do so. He borrowed time/money to build/waste so much national resources on none productive twin towers & white elephant Putra Jaya. He is afraid of competiting with Singapore to bring up Johor Bahru as vibrant city! He misused his power to let Eastern Malaysia far behind in term of education, social influx of activities & its growth & development. He was the most pwoerful PM that Malaysia had ever produced but he failed to do a good job because he couldn’t even pass the baton to a qualified person after retired not to mention to breed & train up new generations for better Malaysia. Rich Malays become richer, poor Malays become poorer not to mention the hard fighting non-Malays or non-Bumiputra. Not even the best national project of North-South highway in Peninsular Malaysia can erase his poor judgment in overall Malaysia Contribution. I am sad today Najib had to use 1MALAYSIA instead of Malaysians Malaysia to cover up the losing ground.

Odie on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 7:29 pm 

Between the two, LKY is a respected leader whereas Mahathir is deemed as a pariah and a racist. Despite the aggravation and ill-intent remarks made by this pariah, LKY never went down to his level nor respond or acknowledge his existence which further infuriates his nemesis. In other words, he treats Mahathir with disdain and those cheap potshots at LKY just expose Mahathir as someone not important enough. Poor attention seeking Mahathir is desperate for some recognition.

CheckitOut on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 8:06 pm 

Courtesy of YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN7qsSQoRBY&feature=player_embedded#

Gosh on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 8:26 pm 

Mahathir and Lee Kwan Yew are two sides of the same coin. In both countries, it’s the unfortunate citizens that suffer daily and have to put up with the whims and fancies of these high flying know it all masters of the rear orifices. In Singapore the malays and indians have long suffered as second class citizens in the country that they were born in, the country that they gave up years of their lives serving National service and contributed to ‘Nation (PAP) Building’ by supporting the economy. Just one example to prove my point, when I wanted to buy a shoe box from HDB, I could not choose the house i liked being one of the minority races. You all know why. The chinese can buy any house they want. I could go on giving many more examples but the purpose of this rant is not to put anyone to sleep. Malaysia is a mirror image, while the indians and chinese slog it out and support the economy as much as the next person, the malays receive free handouts of cash and land.

I recite from personal experience, in a REAL democracy, CITIZENS CAN NOT be discriminated against by virtue of their RACE, LANGUAGE, choice of RELIGION, choice of their ASSOCIATION with PEOPLE,GROUPS OR POLITICAL BELIEFS. (Basic human rights – does not apply to Singaporeans)

Remember the old American Express Card Advert? In Singapore, ‘Citizenship has no privileges’.

In Australia, for instance, one does NOT include in a job application or resume, the following information – RACE, LANGUAGE spoken or written (unless specifically pertaining to the job requirement eg. translator etc.), or RELIGION. This practice in itself prevents discrimination by potential employers. In fact, not even on official governments forms is this information requested. Remember any one form you filled up in Singapore that did not require that information? And guess what? The Aussies haven’t got a rubbish song like ‘one people, one nation. one stinkapore’. Most of these farts can’t remember two lines of their National Anthem (not a mandatory requirement to sing every morning in school in front of the flag).

Don’t get me wrong, they are the most patriotic people I’ve ever met. They love their country, not the song. they love their people not the dispensible man in office (elections not rigged). Each and every man and women I know will fight for their country if the need should arise (but no National Service- how silly – just ask LKY). I know because I live here now. Would you sincerely do that for Singapore (PAP)? Fight even if it kills you to safeguard…what? I don’t know, you tell me. We wouldn’t even fight for our rights as citizens, as humans, we wouldn’t stand up to discrimination, to multi-million dollar minister salaries, GST, GST increases, CPF con job, ERP everywhere, COE more than price of the car, cock-eyed immigration policies, the list will just go on and on and on. The morals and morale of the native Singaporean is down by the dumps. Lee Kwan Yew, do you sincerely believe that everyone of our men will stand and fight should a war break out? Or would they put their immediate family’s interest first and foremost like you’ve done all these years? Would YOUR family be in Singapore if a war broke out, or on a plane?

You see there is no Singapore. Singapore ceased to exist the day the sanskrit derived name Singa- Pura, or literally Lion-City was changed for a more idiot friendly Singapore. Well if it’s English, then Singa’s got no meaning in the dictionary, and pore is this spot on your face that you squeeze a pimple out of. Maybe it’s Singlish? PAP took the liberty then and they’ve been taking liberties ever since.

Singapore, or lack there of, has become synonymous with PAP. Singapore has lost it’s identity as a nation (see: K. Shanmugam) and along with it has lost the identity of it’s people. From its humble beginnings as a Kampung and dirt roads, Singapore is what it is today due to the tireless efforts of its only natural resource, its people. Many if not all believed in the ‘productivity’ bullshit the government fed us in the early days and we worked long hours for meagre wages. Guess what, nothing’s changed, except for those that advocated ‘productivity’. For those of you who put Lee Kwan Yew on a pedestal with his shrivelled up nuts on your chin all day, could this country have come this far if we had all refused to work? If we’d been lazy? Like the Malays in Malaysia? Of course it would’ve you say, Lee Kwan Yew’s never-ending and extremely articulate speeches would’ve still made Singapore what it is today, for he is god. Good on you.

Step by baby step these very people have been lied to repeatedly, belittled and made slaves by the very man and system that they believed in whole heartedly. These people will have reason to rejoice soon enough for nothing is forever. Even if no action is taken by the people to demolish PAP’s ivory tower, the senile old clown will kick the bucket soon enough. And then my fellow brothers and sisters, like they always do, things WILL change.

Cheers

KAM on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 10:15 pm 

For those who think Singapore is great and so on, compared to Malaysia, be forewarned.
Slow and easy wins a marathon. Speeding down the road, burns out your engines and it requires engine overhauls and costly repairs or even scrap.
It bodes us well to be friendly with Malaysia. When these 2 old foggies are gone, then perhaps we can talk bilaterally without any buggage.
Oops, I forgot there is this MM Lee’s son….
dammit.

dd on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 2:29 am 

slow and steady wins the race???
haha…let me tell you something…yes malaysia is slow…but it is not and will never be steady. Its eastern states have no real loyalty, its people divided, largely uneducated, extremely corrupt.

slow and steady…
when you’re dead, does it even matter? what matters is the now.
Thank goodness for democracy. Democracy means malaysia will forever remain in mire.

Obviously singapore has it better than malaysia, and thank goodness for that. I want my cheap holidays.

Don’t get me wrong, I do like Malaysia and I actually like the Idea of a Country comprising of both. but
before Singapore and Malaysia can be combined, all the xenophobia and racists policies and lack of democratic freedom must be erased. That nation would be a force to be reckoned with.

That however will never happen.

Sinkapore on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 9:19 am 

BOTH are the same breed and class of men but I admire more of the Malaysian leader, at least he knows WHEN to step down and move on.

Longi on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 10:25 am 

Can’t blame that chap.

Being Indian and calling oneself a Malay one has to be more racist to be accepted by the community. What more as a leader of the Malays.

Did you know he is so ashamed of his Indian heritage that over the years he has not even mention an iota of it to the press or anyone.

It’s a TABOO subject!

Historian in Making on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 10:59 am 

Will singapore become a city of Malaysia in future where future is no one can tell? absolutely no one can confirm. Period.

Loooong Bia on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 11:06 am 

Thanks TR for this article !!
I never knew LKY ever made
” a rather humiliating public apology ”

Well done! Revealing! Interesting!

VOTEWISE on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 12:00 pm 

be the wiser,no one here is immortal.
life,no matter how great, fades like a flower.
only true wisdom lasts forever.
“pride comes before a fall” is one fine eample!

FTKilla on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 12:41 pm 

malaysians are stuck with a deluded, totally lost govt where fists rule in the govt discussions!

S’poreans are stuck with an “everything’s OK cause LKY said so” govt and peace is ensured with millions of lawsuits guaranteed to make you a bankrupt.

kuku on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 4:21 pm 

haha LKY is a political coward … dare not sue Mahathir cos he know it will lead to war between Singapore and Malaysia

for information on LKY’s other political crimes, visit: http://fashionablefacistdictator.wordpress.com/

antipap on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 6:27 pm 

I laugh at those who think the Malaysian opposition are going to be any better than the Gov.

If you read in between the lines , they want to set up grand PAP’esque state in Malaysia.

talk about Jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

but it is by no means certain though since they themselves are in such a mess.

Oh I actually live in MY.

BarelyAlive on Sat, 21st Nov 2009 2:07 am 

Exchanges between these 2 old men are always interesting. Little separates them. They do not need to make sense, still interesting nonetheless.

Cucu on Sat, 21st Nov 2009 11:14 am 

kuku on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 4:21 pm -

Are you stupid or wat?

You can’t sue someone outside your “jurisdiction” can you? Or can Mad-hartia sue MM for the truth here in Singapore for wat he had said?

Can Hun Sen sue Abhesit?

Bad Taste on Sat, 21st Nov 2009 10:10 pm 

I don’t know if “our correspondent” actually watched the first episode. What Mahathir said was that “LKY liked to make long and lecturing speeches” which he found irritating. So, Mahathir’s strategy was to interrupt LKY frequently which left LKY flustered, and LKY would stop talking soon after.

Mahathir did not say LKY could not answer his questions.

Being an average student in the Singapore medical school who had to re-take a paper, Mahathir could not have been very smart anyway.

Forward on Sun, 22nd Nov 2009 2:18 am 

Both created history and definitely not thru dictatorship … thank God or Allah! Its time for the new generation to learn from history of mankind and move forward.

The world should have no boundary like the web! because of it, friction happen.

Cybergoddess on Sun, 22nd Nov 2009 3:07 pm 

Eh you all v funny ah. I thought usually you all slam LKY to death but suddenly put Mahathir in and there are actually some voices in support of LKY….

Admit it lah no matter how much you all slam the Singapore govt, you are still glad that you’re not ruled by the Malaysian govt….

Omega Lee on Sun, 22nd Nov 2009 7:28 pm 

I have a lot of objections to being ruled by a coalition of Islamic fundamentalists, Chinese socialists and Malay liberals.
While I have no problems with the last component, it is the company they keep and their relative lack of establishment.

If Mahathir is such a pariah and loser in the eyes of the West, why would Discovery Channel give him this honor of making a documentary about him? It is not as if Mr Ahmaddinejad is next in a series of documentaries about Muslim dictators.

LKY can probably will get a docu after his departure, though.

Omega Lee on Sun, 22nd Nov 2009 8:37 pm 

Funny thing about millionaires, Malaysia probably has more ethnic Chinese millionaires (who are NOT government cronies) than Singapore ratio wise even after currency conversion.

Whether the profits made are ethical or not, that is another issue. It can be argued that UMNO’s NEP policies has engendered greater entrepreneurship in the Malaysian Chinese, however using the state’s machinery in the form of GLCs akin to PAP/Singapore they have tried to stifle Chinese entrepreneurship less successfully than Singapore. Not to say Singapore’s initially successful GLCs are now, in comparison, are being run better.

Is it better to have 1000 bureaucrats or 1000 businessmen? Hmm…

Omega Lee on Sun, 22nd Nov 2009 8:58 pm 

I was wondering what would have happened if Chin Peng won his insurgency and consequently annexed Singapore.

knnbccb on Sun, 22nd Nov 2009 10:21 pm 

Both individuals have loud mouths but at least Mahathir knew when to step down.

Silly people terminator on Sun, 22nd Nov 2009 11:08 pm 

The article wrote: “He is credited with modernizing Malaysia which was largely an agricultural country back then.”

I mean seriously, that must be an exaggeration; Malaysia is hardly a modernized country. Laughable; these muppets can’t even get the right spelling for the name of their premier university. (fyi: college, as in an university is not spelled universiti, technology is certainly not spelled teknologi).

You chumps don’t really qualify to talk about oratory (unless you’re referring to “olatoli” or however you guys spell the word).

And to my beloved and venerable Malaysian friends, I appeal to you to
1) have some class
2) brush up your English if you’re gona use this website (well cos it’s in English and not universiti English).

Point 1) //PAIN KILLER on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 5:04 pm

//OMG OMG, how easy for u guys to say untrue things about former PM Mahathir…Fyi, all Singaporeans just lick & sauce Lee Kuan Yew’s balls & talk behind his back…he even creted a post for himself, not wanting to step down. His family owns half of singapore…What is nowed by LKY & his family…even d PM position is family-run…//

I say, omg omg, please have some class.

Point 2) To my fellow singaporeans, read any entries that defend Ma’ha-ha-ha’thir and you probably won’t understand what the message is. Dear Malaysian friends, please convert to some malay sites, I’m sure they are good too.

Omg omg, the world will be a better place if only you’re more like Singaporean. It’s a pity you’re not. Sigh.

Cybergoddess on Mon, 23rd Nov 2009 7:02 am 

Please..Mahathir stepped down but could not step out – he was meddling from outside – at least old man Lee knew he could not stop meddling and still stays within the system rather than outside of it. They’re both alike in many ways but one’s clearly way smarter than the other.

Sinner on Mon, 23rd Nov 2009 11:50 am 

Mahathir thought he would be deeply respected after he left the Malaysian politics but he was wrong. So, he make noise everywhere and screws everybody up!

BERNARDO K on Mon, 23rd Nov 2009 1:14 pm 

It is unfair that these 2 sick old fools,shd affect the neighbourliness and brotherhood of the citizens of both countries.

Why are the 2 Funky old men,internationaling their private feud at our expense?

Stop it and return us the long delayed peace that we are longing for.

Mp on Mon, 23rd Nov 2009 11:46 pm 

Cmon guys…i feel tht LKY and Mahathir were both great leaders in their own right..revolutionizing their individual nations through tumultuous times..
Of cos no one is perfect and both have made mistakes..but both countries do enjoy more stability compared to many other countries in the world..much owing to policies implemented by these two “old men”..
Alas..as much as they have contributed the their respective nations..u cannot pls evrybody…and i personally hope tht in time LKY and Mahathir will put their differences aside and show each other the respect they much deserve…
and the same goes for us..we can criticize some of their decisions but we should not judge them on their character..as they are two of the greatest characters in political history..at least in my view…