Interview with Mr Ng Chun Kiat, son of KKH medication error victim Madam Ng on what really happened
Background:
On 6 November 2009, two cancer patients receiving chemotherapy at Singapore’s Kandang Kerbau Hospital (KKH) was given an overdose of the drugs. One of them is Madam Ng L. K who received doxorubicin over a few hours instead of days. Madam Ng’s son, Mr Ng Chun Kiat, had started a blog to raise public awareness of what really happened which is quite different from what was reported in the mainstream media.
We manage to catch up with Mr Ng to find out more about the case via email:
Temasek Review:
After the mistake was discovered by your mother, she was told to go home by the pharmacists and not by the doctors as is the usual practice? Did any doctors explain to your mother what happen? Who is the consultant in charge of your mother?
Chun Kiat:
Yes, it was the pharmacist who told us that it was OK for my mum to go home. The only explanation offered by the pharmacist was that the drug my mum was taking for her chemotherapy was not as potent as Mdm Ng’s, and that some people who have had the same chemo drug as my mum had it infused in 15 minutes.
The only doctor who attended to us that very night was the junior doctor on duty who could only assure us that the necessary tests have been arranged and various doctors have been notified of the situation. He commented that he was in no position to offer us further information or explanation as that was not his specialty.
During her previous stay, her principal doctor was Dr. Chia Yin Ning and her chemotherapy doctor is Dr. Soh Lay Tin.
Temasek Review:
It was only after your request for your mother to stay overnight in hospital for observation that the pharmacist relented, is that correct? She initially wanted to send your mother home?
Chun Kiat:
It wasn’t exactly a request on my part. I voiced out that it shouldn’t be a case of the victims wanting to stay in hospital but rather the professionals advising us to do so immediately since effects etc were not know yet. Again, the pharmacist told us it was okay if my mum went home.
Temasek Review:
KKH arranged only for your mum to stay in B2 and you had to pay a down payment first? It was reported in the papers that the hospitalization bill was waived by the hospital?
Chun Kiat:
There were no initial arrangements made by the hospital. We were only instructed to do the necessary paperwork for admission, which included the down payment.
My mum was then asked to choose the ward class and bed to stay in. She selected the B2 ward as there was no assurance of any compensation or cover of the hospitalisation fees and it was also the same ward she had previously stayed.
After explaining the incident to the assistant (clerk?) arranging the admission arrangements, she replied that we’d actually have to make the payment first while the hospital does the investigations before we can get the claim.
As the payment required my father’s signature and IC for the medisave payment to be processed, we held on to the form for the next few days as we felt it was really unnecessary that we had to take responsibility to pay for the admission which was a blatant negligence on the hospital’s part.
Not a single staff came to offer the waiver of the hospitalisation charges until my aunt made the request only a few days later.
Temasek Review:
How long did you wait in the ward before a doctor attend to your mother? Is he/she a house officer, medical officer or registrar on call?
Chun Kiat:
We reached the hospital at early 10pm and if I’m not wrong, the doctor came around 12 plus or past 1am. He’s the junior doctor on duty. However, note that from the time we got in the ward, there had been several doctors gathered at the nurses’ station, which is very conveniently located right outside the ward.
If this had been seriously regarded by the hospital, why wasn’t there any urgency in the doctors to assess my mum or to examine her right there and then? Instead, we were told they had to retrieve my mother’s case file before any action could be done.
Temasek Review:
KKH only gave you an official explanation after 5 days? You mean no senior figures spoke to you during this period of time?
Chun Kiat:
KKH arranged for an inquiry to answer our concerns and uncertainties after 5 days. I suspect that they only did so as they received an email from the media asking for coverage on the 4th day.
It was at the inquiry when we finally got to speak to senior figures. Run-on-the mill doctors and nurses came and went, often just telling my mum her blood test was fine etc. Some did mention it was due to overdose, others said it was fine with regards to the dosage when we questioned them about my mum’s status and condition.
Temasek Review:
Did KKH offer your mother an official apology?
Chun Kiat:
I would suppose the official verbal apology was made during the inquiry on the 11th of November 2009. Official in terms of black and white, none.
Temasek Review:
Did KKH offer to compensate your mother for the pain and distress she has been through?
Chun Kiat:
Pain and distress, no. They only mentioned during the inquiry that they will waive off all the charges incurred during this period of stay and waive off my mum’s fourth session of chemotherapy (total of 6 sessions).
Also, they claimed that they will only take responsibility, should my mum’s heart fail in future due to the effects of the drug, doxorubicin, and this could be tested with post-mortem.
Temasek Review:
Are you considering taking legal action against KKH?
Chun Kiat:
We are definitely considering.
We thank Mr Ng Chun Kiat for agreeing to this email interview and we wish his mother a speedy recovery.
Read Mr Ng’s blog here
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“Also, they claimed that they will only take responsibility, should my mum’s heart fail in future due to the effects of the drug, doxorubicin, and this could be tested with post-mortem.”
If those clowns are not going to take responsibility for dishonest mistake, how will they even take responsibility should thing happen in the future ? They can deny now means they can also deny later. Even worse, the doctors and staff who familiar with the case may have ‘moved on’ then.
What is address for Ng’s blog ?
As usual….MIW and their lap-dog ST trying to whitewash everything!!!
I would like to thank Mr. Ng for voicing out against the mistakes that KKH has made. I wish Madam Ng a speedy recovery and I am of the opinion that KKH should face severe punishement for such a glaring error.
What is most shocking is the lack of compassion meted out by the various people who attended Madam Ng. They seemed to display a lack of emotion and understanding to Madam Ng’s plight, and instead, chose to side-step the important matter of issuing a larger quantity of drugs.
I feel that mistakes are bound to happen once in a while, but to see the medical facility being slow to respond, and for them to be so distant and cold about it, would make us lose trust in such a medical institution.
Even if it was pharmacists who made the error, they represent the medical institution, and thus, it is the institution who should face the consequences.
There is a common saying in sg. Quote: Ordinary people, you die your business. If you are not rich or powerful, who cares. I have a personal experience more then 10yrs ago, so I can understand Mr Ng positon. Best wishes to Mr Ng and family.
The culture of shirking responsibilities from the PAP government is filtered down to those working for them as well.
People can forgive if mistakes were made but no forgiveness can be given if no remorse or apologies are given in the first place!
Talking about compassion, I happened to witness the following incident at SGH :
There was this old lady patient on a wheelchair with her son at the payment counter. The son told the nurse in charge that as he was jobless, he asked whether the hospital could temporary waive the payment pending the approval of his application for a waiver of the medical fees. The nurse replied loudly that her job is to collect the payment and told him point blank not to argue as there are others waiting in the queue to make payment. It was at this point that the old lady took some money from her purse and gave it to the son to make the payment. It was obvious that the old lady wanted to save her and her son from further embarassment.
So next time when any of our PAP Ministers or MP tell us that aid is always available around the corner if only we were to ask for it, bear in mind to take it with a pinch of salt.
The only compassion that the government will give is when they are being asked to do so.
The only way they can be asked to do so, is not by our comment in TR or the pap MP. The one and only way to get things right is to vote in opposition MP en bloc.
The opposition MP will have the interest to fight for us and hence benefit us.
Once the MPs ( at least three GRC) raise the matter in parliament all the compassion of the government will jump out from nowhere, that is how to get compassion out of PAP.
You and I, together we are real boss of Singapore and not PAP. Together we will decide who runs Singapore and who is not. However the chance of being the boss is only one day, that is on polling day. So please exercise your vote the right and honorable way.
it happened in SAF, ISD, town councils, Temasek, GIC etc.
looks like the bureaucratic disease of “cover our backside” “hear no evil,speak no evil” and lack of apathy and accountability is spreading.
“Also, they claimed that they will only take responsibility, should my mum’s heart fail in future due to the effects of the drug, doxorubicin, and this could be tested with post-mortem.”
They can always have a post-mortem and claimed that doxorubicin is NOT the cause thus skipping payment. Better send to a independent 3rd party.
Hope nothing to that extent will happen to Mr. Ng; and wish Madam Ng a speedy recovery as well.
@Alan Wong on Wed, 18th Nov 2009 11:43 am
I do remember a case this year a Ang Mo had saved a drowning woman from Singapore River but hurt his leg in the process. The hospital insist that he pay for his treatment on his leg. This is compassion in Singapore.
Khaw Boon Wan lied again, liar liar!!! He was seen telling Singapore Main Stream media that the victim felt bad about the whole episode and they are afraid the nurse will be in trouble. ‘FELT BAD”…gosh!! is the victim suppposed to apologise and be grateful like what Teo Ho Pin suggested? This matter should not rest, medical fee is Singapore is not cheap and we should not let them treat peasants like a transient object. What if this happened to LKY wife? the CEO would have been sacked immediately. You see, it is so unfair because of PAP, vote them out the soonest possible to avoid further trouble.
HOW TO BE A MEDICAL HUB LIKE THIS???!!!
IF I GOT MONEY AND AM A FOREIGNER LOOKING FOR WORLD CLASS MEDICAL SERVICE, I WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER TWICE.
my take on this. we are all free to choose. i have never stayed in kkh before. if i don’t like a place, i just go elsewhere. i don’t like mcdonalds, so i eat burger king. besides kkh, there are other places in singapore to choose from.
there IS a choice. if there is a choice, then one cannot blame the govt hospital.
on the other hand, if there is NO choice, then its a different thing. look at what sort of compensation is obtained when someone serving NS dies?
Weigh this matter against someone who has died while doing NS or IPPT and think again.
We need change. We badly need change.
What to do, it has happened, let move on……
//Protoss
I don’t know what you are getting at.
Whether it is you choice or not, when you go to a hospital, you should expect professional treatment.
This is not Malaysia.
these people who always claim to be compassionate, always take from people.
I think some of us would like to know the names of the two pharmacists who made this blunder. It’s not available in this article nor your blog. I wonder what disciplinary action awaits them.
petra on Thu, 19th Nov 2009 7:28 am
PAP reply:
1) it should not happen but i am sorry that it happened
2) there is enough interest and public concern but not enough to reveal the actual findings due to stategic difference view on the error
3) it’s an honest mistake. Let’s move on.
Khaw Boon Wan don’t hold any Doctorate degree. He is not a Doctor.So he didn’t know Medication.The last scenario on the H1N1 epidemic. he act to lied.PAP influx foreign talent on a CBF basis (Cheap-Better Faster to die). Now with this problem on the rise.Singapore now is a dangeroue place to live.
Alan Wong & Rainnix
Yes the PAP leadership lacks compassion and has no moral compass. What do you expect from a pack of wolves who obey their leader with blind faith?
There is a joke going the rounds that there is a temple in Singapore with two statues of two different deities – one female and the other male. The tour guide always tell the same story to his flock of tourists :
In Asian culture we always believe in the balancing effect of yin and yang to maintain equilibrium so that progress can be achieved. On the left is the statue of female Goddess of Mercy – KWAN YIN, and on the right is the statue of the male God of No Mercy – KWAN YEW.