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	<title>Comments on: Barack Obama fails to raise issue of &#8220;political repression&#8221; in Singapore during meeting with PM Lee</title>
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		<title>By: dsi r4</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsi r4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I like this article but..
Can someone tell me about Barack Obama?
I know that he is a serious candidate for &#039;08, but I would like to know where he stands on the issues. I checked his site but nowhere can I find the info. i am looking for.
so please tell me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I like this article but..<br />
Can someone tell me about Barack Obama?<br />
I know that he is a serious candidate for &#8216;08, but I would like to know where he stands on the issues. I checked his site but nowhere can I find the info. i am looking for.<br />
so please tell me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Defining dictatoship what is your measure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Defining dictatoship what is your measure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt on Tue, 17th Nov 2009 7:00 am
 
.... blatant and brazenly rigging elections including the stuffing of ballots and utterly falsified turn-out figures, encouraging supporters to take up arms against opponents supporters, boiling to death political opponents, making it impossible for people to speak their minds even in private, using the army to seize power....

From this colourful description, how much of harm caused is enough to qualify for &#039;dictatorship&quot; and where is its starting point - by your measurement?? 

I cannot see a difference between locking up someone for 18 years of solitary confinement for political thoughts than one that could have the victim cut up and deep fried in oil for pleasure.

Give us your objective measure of justifiable quantification to give your post a hint of credibility, will you???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt on Tue, 17th Nov 2009 7:00 am</p>
<p>&#8230;. blatant and brazenly rigging elections including the stuffing of ballots and utterly falsified turn-out figures, encouraging supporters to take up arms against opponents supporters, boiling to death political opponents, making it impossible for people to speak their minds even in private, using the army to seize power&#8230;.</p>
<p>From this colourful description, how much of harm caused is enough to qualify for &#8216;dictatorship&#8221; and where is its starting point &#8211; by your measurement?? </p>
<p>I cannot see a difference between locking up someone for 18 years of solitary confinement for political thoughts than one that could have the victim cut up and deep fried in oil for pleasure.</p>
<p>Give us your objective measure of justifiable quantification to give your post a hint of credibility, will you???</p>
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		<title>By: loyal dog don't step on its tail</title>
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		<dc:creator>loyal dog don't step on its tail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singapore backed US militarily in Afghanistan and Iraq the way NATO is doing. Even Chinadaily reported added further military strength recently. 

Japan and South Korea, two of US closest allies. are no longer assisting the US political interests there and OBAMA needs as many foreign flags flying his dead shit sure lose cause in either client states, so his human rights options are constrained by US geopolitical self-interests - whatever his private feelings may be.

Even human rights agenda in China has downgraded of valued discussions with the Chinese in his visit to Beijing. Singapore is less strategically relevant to Obama&#039;s political mapping, so he probably treated Singapore ( and his coincident visit) as politically &quot;non-existent&quot; except as a necessary host to APEC and a part-time loyal faithful dog of at least some use in supporting his war prosecution in Afghanistan.

We want change, we have to vote for change. 

After that, he might clap, clap, clap us and still benefiting from our military assistance in Afghanistan. At least, he can cite Singapore as NON-NATO but NATO-like of loyalty and demanding more from his trans-atlantic alliances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singapore backed US militarily in Afghanistan and Iraq the way NATO is doing. Even Chinadaily reported added further military strength recently. </p>
<p>Japan and South Korea, two of US closest allies. are no longer assisting the US political interests there and OBAMA needs as many foreign flags flying his dead shit sure lose cause in either client states, so his human rights options are constrained by US geopolitical self-interests &#8211; whatever his private feelings may be.</p>
<p>Even human rights agenda in China has downgraded of valued discussions with the Chinese in his visit to Beijing. Singapore is less strategically relevant to Obama&#8217;s political mapping, so he probably treated Singapore ( and his coincident visit) as politically &#8220;non-existent&#8221; except as a necessary host to APEC and a part-time loyal faithful dog of at least some use in supporting his war prosecution in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>We want change, we have to vote for change. </p>
<p>After that, he might clap, clap, clap us and still benefiting from our military assistance in Afghanistan. At least, he can cite Singapore as NON-NATO but NATO-like of loyalty and demanding more from his trans-atlantic alliances.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look I&#039;m sorry but in terms of so-called &#039;dictatorships&#039; Singapore is about the lowest state on the list. Obama has to be practical - there are governments in Central Asia, Africa and South America who are utilising one or more of the following to stay in power; blatant and brazenly rigging elections including the stuffing of ballots and utterly falsified turn-out figures, encouraging supporters to take up arms against opponents supporters, boiling to death political opponents, making it impossible for people to speak their minds even in private, using the army to seize power. 

He&#039;s got to be a realist. Singapore for all it&#039;s ills is a relatively liberal country in the grand scheme of things - you might be made bankrupt if you take Mr Chee&#039;s position but you aren&#039;t going to be carted off in the middle of the night to your certain death for merely speaking out. The Singapore election system whilst heavily skewed is clean in terms of vote counting and does allow the possibility to vote out the PAP (although of course it would need a massive public mobilisation) and the Singaporean government isn&#039;t getting MORE repressive - if anything very very very very small changes are happening such as at Hong Lim Park. You&#039;ve got to try and find ways to take down the biggest abusers of human rights first (and that requires a number of tools) Singapore is too small, too liberal and too loyal for Obama to cause a row. Sorry but it&#039;s up to Singaporean&#039;s to vote out the PAP. I&#039;m sure Obama sympathises behind closed doors. 

Look at Cambodia for an example of a country where I&#039;d be getting seriously worried if I was a democracy-activist. Singapore&#039;s government is not stupid enough to ever try and pull any of that sh*t - it knows if it started acting up like Hun Sen the U.S would be forced to make public criticism which would be bad for Singapore&#039;s tourist and business reputation. There&#039;s an unspoken pact there that is unlikely to ever get broken - the U.S refrains from criticism because Singapore &#039;ain&#039;t that bad&#039;, and Singapore avoids embarassing the U.S (and also protecting it&#039;s own reputation) by using &#039;clever&#039; and what would be semi-legal tactics in the U.S to maintain it&#039;s rule. People should realise this and stop fearing the PAP - they&#039;re never going to shoot you down in the street for all the rhetoric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look I&#8217;m sorry but in terms of so-called &#8216;dictatorships&#8217; Singapore is about the lowest state on the list. Obama has to be practical &#8211; there are governments in Central Asia, Africa and South America who are utilising one or more of the following to stay in power; blatant and brazenly rigging elections including the stuffing of ballots and utterly falsified turn-out figures, encouraging supporters to take up arms against opponents supporters, boiling to death political opponents, making it impossible for people to speak their minds even in private, using the army to seize power. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s got to be a realist. Singapore for all it&#8217;s ills is a relatively liberal country in the grand scheme of things &#8211; you might be made bankrupt if you take Mr Chee&#8217;s position but you aren&#8217;t going to be carted off in the middle of the night to your certain death for merely speaking out. The Singapore election system whilst heavily skewed is clean in terms of vote counting and does allow the possibility to vote out the PAP (although of course it would need a massive public mobilisation) and the Singaporean government isn&#8217;t getting MORE repressive &#8211; if anything very very very very small changes are happening such as at Hong Lim Park. You&#8217;ve got to try and find ways to take down the biggest abusers of human rights first (and that requires a number of tools) Singapore is too small, too liberal and too loyal for Obama to cause a row. Sorry but it&#8217;s up to Singaporean&#8217;s to vote out the PAP. I&#8217;m sure Obama sympathises behind closed doors. </p>
<p>Look at Cambodia for an example of a country where I&#8217;d be getting seriously worried if I was a democracy-activist. Singapore&#8217;s government is not stupid enough to ever try and pull any of that sh*t &#8211; it knows if it started acting up like Hun Sen the U.S would be forced to make public criticism which would be bad for Singapore&#8217;s tourist and business reputation. There&#8217;s an unspoken pact there that is unlikely to ever get broken &#8211; the U.S refrains from criticism because Singapore &#8216;ain&#8217;t that bad&#8217;, and Singapore avoids embarassing the U.S (and also protecting it&#8217;s own reputation) by using &#8216;clever&#8217; and what would be semi-legal tactics in the U.S to maintain it&#8217;s rule. People should realise this and stop fearing the PAP &#8211; they&#8217;re never going to shoot you down in the street for all the rhetoric.</p>
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		<title>By: x12831</title>
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		<dc:creator>x12831</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The power lies in the hands of Singapore citizens. Don&#039;t expect external help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The power lies in the hands of Singapore citizens. Don&#8217;t expect external help!</p>
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		<title>By: XIIIblackcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>XIIIblackcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He already received his Nobel peace prize. What other higher achievement can he still receive other than a Nobel prize? It just serve Obama no strategic purpose into raising the issue of political repression in Singapore. 

And even if he did say... those words will probably not be mentioned in our mainstream media. In other words... we can only rely on ourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He already received his Nobel peace prize. What other higher achievement can he still receive other than a Nobel prize? It just serve Obama no strategic purpose into raising the issue of political repression in Singapore. </p>
<p>And even if he did say&#8230; those words will probably not be mentioned in our mainstream media. In other words&#8230; we can only rely on ourself.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obama only promises much more than he could deliver.Before the 2008 Presidential Election,he promised the electorate that he would end the war and implement some other policies.On the contrary,he is still adopting the Bush adminstration and still refuses to withdraw the troops from Iraq and Afganistan.It is not surprising that the US government continues to borrow money from China and indirectly from some other countries,like Singapore for the bailout and to fund for US occupation in Iraq and Afganistan.

Hence it is of no interest that Barack Obama will address the human rights issue in Singapore as US needs Singapore&#039;s incumbent government to extend its influence in the Asia-Pacific region and so far the Singapore&#039;s incumbent government has never failed to serve the US interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama only promises much more than he could deliver.Before the 2008 Presidential Election,he promised the electorate that he would end the war and implement some other policies.On the contrary,he is still adopting the Bush adminstration and still refuses to withdraw the troops from Iraq and Afganistan.It is not surprising that the US government continues to borrow money from China and indirectly from some other countries,like Singapore for the bailout and to fund for US occupation in Iraq and Afganistan.</p>
<p>Hence it is of no interest that Barack Obama will address the human rights issue in Singapore as US needs Singapore&#8217;s incumbent government to extend its influence in the Asia-Pacific region and so far the Singapore&#8217;s incumbent government has never failed to serve the US interest.</p>
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		<title>By: for singapore</title>
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		<dc:creator>for singapore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guys,this is expected!
after being voted the PRESIDENT OF THE USA on a DEMOCRAT TICKET,mR BARRACK Obama,has recently converted to being
a REPUBLICAN,and follow BUSH&#039;s example seeking advice from
their GRAND-UNCLE from Singapore...so it is the same old 
game,nothing new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guys,this is expected!<br />
after being voted the PRESIDENT OF THE USA on a DEMOCRAT TICKET,mR BARRACK Obama,has recently converted to being<br />
a REPUBLICAN,and follow BUSH&#8217;s example seeking advice from<br />
their GRAND-UNCLE from Singapore&#8230;so it is the same old<br />
game,nothing new.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obama so happy with the food and stay in singapore

where got mood to say bad about singapore gov..?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obama so happy with the food and stay in singapore</p>
<p>where got mood to say bad about singapore gov..?</p>
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		<title>By: fpc</title>
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		<dc:creator>fpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why people think this APEC is important.

It is just a pack of sand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why people think this APEC is important.</p>
<p>It is just a pack of sand</p>
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