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	<title>Comments on: Teo Ser Luck: online space &#8220;abuzz&#8221; with PAP and YPAP websites</title>
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		<title>By: mon</title>
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		<dc:creator>mon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you check on PAP website, you can be traced.

If you check on this website, where it is hosted overseas, how could the govt trace you.

Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you check on PAP website, you can be traced.</p>
<p>If you check on this website, where it is hosted overseas, how could the govt trace you.</p>
<p>Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Rain</title>
		<link>http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/21/teo-ser-luck-online-space-abuzz-with-pap-and-ypap-websites/comment-page-2/#comment-23063</link>
		<dc:creator>Rain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Cyberspace is the last bastion of freedom of speech in Singapore where citizens can voice out their dissatisfaction and disgruntlement against the regime openly and fearlessly, unmoderated and uncensored.&quot;

FALLACY detected! moderation and censorship abound even for TR. government&#039;s also checking forums and blogs to sieve out anti-pap people for persecution. and influencing sentiments by posting pro-pap comments and chastizing anti-government policies people. in short, no freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cyberspace is the last bastion of freedom of speech in Singapore where citizens can voice out their dissatisfaction and disgruntlement against the regime openly and fearlessly, unmoderated and uncensored.&#8221;</p>
<p>FALLACY detected! moderation and censorship abound even for TR. government&#8217;s also checking forums and blogs to sieve out anti-pap people for persecution. and influencing sentiments by posting pro-pap comments and chastizing anti-government policies people. in short, no freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Bila Lila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bila Lila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I know how they got that figure.
If you visit Talking Cock and click the Exit button they send u to the PAP site. Try ha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I know how they got that figure.<br />
If you visit Talking Cock and click the Exit button they send u to the PAP site. Try ha.</p>
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		<title>By: kind soul</title>
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		<dc:creator>kind soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least they are trying something. Though I bet sure cannot work one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they are trying something. Though I bet sure cannot work one.</p>
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		<title>By: XisD Tay</title>
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		<dc:creator>XisD Tay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>colgate said: The general idea of the P65 blog is well intentioned. Nothing wrong with the idea. No one can blame the PAP from trying to communicate and touch base with the online community.

You are very very very seriously wrong. Communicating with the people is the lease of intentions of the PaPies. By offering the blog under the pretext of comunicating with the people, anti-gahment posters are monitored and recorded for future &#039;cleaning&#039; if necessary.

If you think the Po Panda Bear was arrested for his cocktail recipe, then you are so wrong. This Panda have been on the net long long time, always anti-gahment and have already been placed under the radar for a long long time by the system.

So when the cocktail recipe came along, it gave the gahment a reason to screw him and that is why he was called up and charged subsequently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>colgate said: The general idea of the P65 blog is well intentioned. Nothing wrong with the idea. No one can blame the PAP from trying to communicate and touch base with the online community.</p>
<p>You are very very very seriously wrong. Communicating with the people is the lease of intentions of the PaPies. By offering the blog under the pretext of comunicating with the people, anti-gahment posters are monitored and recorded for future &#8216;cleaning&#8217; if necessary.</p>
<p>If you think the Po Panda Bear was arrested for his cocktail recipe, then you are so wrong. This Panda have been on the net long long time, always anti-gahment and have already been placed under the radar for a long long time by the system.</p>
<p>So when the cocktail recipe came along, it gave the gahment a reason to screw him and that is why he was called up and charged subsequently.</p>
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		<title>By: colgate</title>
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		<dc:creator>colgate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a marketing perspective. If one looks at Mr Brown. He is allure seems to be linked with how he finds ever more innovative and creative ways to encase his messages by using the podcast medium. Many of his fans for example down load his works into ipods where they find it easy to go and exchange with friends.

P65 cannot do that. They can try, but so far they do not seem to show either the creative skill or capability to sustain that sort of product line.

In the case of Mr Wang. He invest alot not on content. But he is very interactive and frequently runs his blog like a chat forum. So if you ask him a question, it is not like the brotherhood press where it just goes into one black hole. You will get alot of interactivity there. And many find it reassuring that they can connect directly with a blogger.

Again, P65 cannot do that. They can try, but so far they do not seem to show either the creative skill or capability to sustain that sort of product line.

Brotherhood Press primary sell is they happen to be the only blog in SG that still produces reads averaging at least 3 A4 sheets. No one these days do that. They remain very long reads even by MSM standards. So their appeal will fall into a niche market and will be very different market segment from the one&#039;s I mentioned above. But one thing remains clear. In a market where every blog is only churning out snippets, the 3 page blog will always command a loyal and dedicated following. That is one reason why they are so arrogant that they dont even bother to treat their readers with a modicum of respect.

The prevailing attitude seems to be, please take it or leave it.

Then again, judging from past and current events, that sort of attitude may also be their appeal.

Again, P65 cannot do that. They can try, but so far they do not seem to show either the creative skill or capability to sustain that sort of product line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a marketing perspective. If one looks at Mr Brown. He is allure seems to be linked with how he finds ever more innovative and creative ways to encase his messages by using the podcast medium. Many of his fans for example down load his works into ipods where they find it easy to go and exchange with friends.</p>
<p>P65 cannot do that. They can try, but so far they do not seem to show either the creative skill or capability to sustain that sort of product line.</p>
<p>In the case of Mr Wang. He invest alot not on content. But he is very interactive and frequently runs his blog like a chat forum. So if you ask him a question, it is not like the brotherhood press where it just goes into one black hole. You will get alot of interactivity there. And many find it reassuring that they can connect directly with a blogger.</p>
<p>Again, P65 cannot do that. They can try, but so far they do not seem to show either the creative skill or capability to sustain that sort of product line.</p>
<p>Brotherhood Press primary sell is they happen to be the only blog in SG that still produces reads averaging at least 3 A4 sheets. No one these days do that. They remain very long reads even by MSM standards. So their appeal will fall into a niche market and will be very different market segment from the one&#8217;s I mentioned above. But one thing remains clear. In a market where every blog is only churning out snippets, the 3 page blog will always command a loyal and dedicated following. That is one reason why they are so arrogant that they dont even bother to treat their readers with a modicum of respect.</p>
<p>The prevailing attitude seems to be, please take it or leave it.</p>
<p>Then again, judging from past and current events, that sort of attitude may also be their appeal.</p>
<p>Again, P65 cannot do that. They can try, but so far they do not seem to show either the creative skill or capability to sustain that sort of product line.</p>
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		<title>By: colgate</title>
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		<dc:creator>colgate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The general idea of the P65 blog is well intentioned. Nothing wrong with the idea. No one can blame the PAP from trying to communicate and touch base with the online community.

The problem seems to be their marketing plan. And their inability to profile an attractive package. They seem to think they can wing it all alone. I do not have doubts, they have alot of resources, such as the MSM and other covert sites to help them publicise their reads.

But to get a bread and butter readership like Mr Wang, Brotherhood Press, Mr Brown and other such blogs who already have a loyal following, they need to be able to be able to cultivate an identity that is separate and independent from the persona of the PAP.

This may be the most difficult thing for them to do. It may take decades, centuries even or they may not even be able to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general idea of the P65 blog is well intentioned. Nothing wrong with the idea. No one can blame the PAP from trying to communicate and touch base with the online community.</p>
<p>The problem seems to be their marketing plan. And their inability to profile an attractive package. They seem to think they can wing it all alone. I do not have doubts, they have alot of resources, such as the MSM and other covert sites to help them publicise their reads.</p>
<p>But to get a bread and butter readership like Mr Wang, Brotherhood Press, Mr Brown and other such blogs who already have a loyal following, they need to be able to be able to cultivate an identity that is separate and independent from the persona of the PAP.</p>
<p>This may be the most difficult thing for them to do. It may take decades, centuries even or they may not even be able to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: XisD Tay</title>
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		<dc:creator>XisD Tay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sicktothebones, I am so sick and tired of hearing idiots telling Sinkaporeans how they must be greatful to Harry Lee for this, that, blah blah blah as if he is &#039;God&#039;. These idiots simply have no idea what the fiack they are talking about!

The PaPies are PAID HIGHLY to do their job, they are SUPPOSED to make Sinkapore better, they are OBLIGATED to the people paying them BIG MONEY, not the other way round. If an employee performs well, he is rewarded otherwise dismissed!

So can anyone famiLEE worshipper give me one good reason why should a BOSS be grateful to his employee for PAYING THEM to do their job?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sicktothebones, I am so sick and tired of hearing idiots telling Sinkaporeans how they must be greatful to Harry Lee for this, that, blah blah blah as if he is &#8216;God&#8217;. These idiots simply have no idea what the fiack they are talking about!</p>
<p>The PaPies are PAID HIGHLY to do their job, they are SUPPOSED to make Sinkapore better, they are OBLIGATED to the people paying them BIG MONEY, not the other way round. If an employee performs well, he is rewarded otherwise dismissed!</p>
<p>So can anyone famiLEE worshipper give me one good reason why should a BOSS be grateful to his employee for PAYING THEM to do their job?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the point of reading PAP related blogs ?

You already get it in the Shit Times ?  

Anyway what is so great if you had to hang a carrot (a VW car ?)  in order to increase your readership ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the point of reading PAP related blogs ?</p>
<p>You already get it in the Shit Times ?  </p>
<p>Anyway what is so great if you had to hang a carrot (a VW car ?)  in order to increase your readership ?</p>
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		<title>By: sicktothebones</title>
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		<dc:creator>sicktothebones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>read another bootlicker woman telling us to be grateful and full of praise for the old man. castigating young bloggers for being ungrateful and blogging negatively about PAP. You get all this type of apple polishers in their websites.http://www.straitstimes.com/ST%2BForum/Online%2BStory/STIStory_419728.html

and the usual crap about what you can do for the country not the other way round. I have done alot but the govt prefers foreign talents and let in tons of PRs competing for jobs, educations, health, amenities, etc and demanding equal rights!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>read another bootlicker woman telling us to be grateful and full of praise for the old man. castigating young bloggers for being ungrateful and blogging negatively about PAP. You get all this type of apple polishers in their websites.http://www.straitstimes.com/ST%2BForum/Online%2BStory/STIStory_419728.html</p>
<p>and the usual crap about what you can do for the country not the other way round. I have done alot but the govt prefers foreign talents and let in tons of PRs competing for jobs, educations, health, amenities, etc and demanding equal rights!!!</p>
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