Comments on: Foreigners compete with locals for dealers’ job at Marina Bay Sands http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/02/foreigners-compete-with-locals-for-dealers-job-at-marina-bay-sands/ The Voice of Singapore from Singaporeans for Singaporeans Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:35:53 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: mr. smitters http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/02/foreigners-compete-with-locals-for-dealers-job-at-marina-bay-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-20716 mr. smitters Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:10:12 +0000 http://temasekreview.com/?p=11576#comment-20716 c'mon people.. it is a common FACT. that singaporeans are fickle, fuzzy employees. your customer service IQ leaves much to be desired. you want this annual leave, and that bonus, and so on and so forth.. blah... blah.. blah.. and yeah, you demand higher pay. the bottomline is, THE CASINO IS A MONEY MAKING ENTERPRISE. MONEEEEY. so they get these impoverished, sweat-shop salaried, proto-slaves form the third world to do your economy's bidding. and voila! you've got singapore! =) c’mon people.. it is a common FACT. that singaporeans are fickle, fuzzy employees. your customer service IQ leaves much to be desired. you want this annual leave, and that bonus, and so on and so forth.. blah… blah.. blah.. and yeah, you demand higher pay. the bottomline is, THE CASINO IS A MONEY MAKING ENTERPRISE. MONEEEEY. so they get these impoverished, sweat-shop salaried, proto-slaves form the third world to do your economy’s bidding. and voila! you’ve got singapore! =)

]]> By: dtm24 http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/02/foreigners-compete-with-locals-for-dealers-job-at-marina-bay-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-20579 dtm24 Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:49:55 +0000 http://temasekreview.com/?p=11576#comment-20579 i was at the jobfair on saturday and almost every1 there i saw was a foreigner(just dont ask me how i know). i am personally not very convinced that they are going to put all of the foreigners on hold untill they've reviewed each and every singaporean. with the way that things are now, i'm beginning to think that singapore is contradicting herself in what she practices and what she preaches. i was at the jobfair on saturday and almost every1 there i saw was a foreigner(just dont ask me how i know). i am personally not very convinced that they are going to put all of the foreigners on hold untill they’ve reviewed each and every singaporean.

with the way that things are now, i’m beginning to think that singapore is contradicting herself in what she practices and what she preaches.

]]> By: silvir24 http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/02/foreigners-compete-with-locals-for-dealers-job-at-marina-bay-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-20550 silvir24 Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:30:31 +0000 http://temasekreview.com/?p=11576#comment-20550 As long as our government continues to justify their policy of sustaining our need for population renewal by importing foreigners with barely any mimimal requirements, we'll have this problem. It's a quick and easy solution which merely serves to brush a level of sealant on cracks which will later threaten the very foundation of our society. They see these cracks as surface problems. Instead of looking at policy changes which will serve to address internal problems and internal needs, they took the easy way out. Instead of cracking their heads on how they can better serve the people, and looking deep & hard about why the local talents in our country would rather leave than stay when they have a choice, they simply say... well, if Singapore isn't good enough for our own people, there are other people from other countries who will find Singapore more than good enough (albeit for the short term). What is love for the country? Nothing perhaps. Maybe the people in government holds no love for our country either. Perhaps the pragmatic approach has lead to convenient and materialistic governance. Perhaps it's the fact that politics has deteriorated to the people serving the government rather than the government serving the people. Thus we have no country to serve. We serve the elites. As long as our government continues to justify their policy of sustaining our need for population renewal by importing foreigners with barely any mimimal requirements, we’ll have this problem. It’s a quick and easy solution which merely serves to brush a level of sealant on cracks which will later threaten the very foundation of our society. They see these cracks as surface problems. Instead of looking at policy changes which will serve to address internal problems and internal needs, they took the easy way out. Instead of cracking their heads on how they can better serve the people, and looking deep & hard about why the local talents in our country would rather leave than stay when they have a choice, they simply say… well, if Singapore isn’t good enough for our own people, there are other people from other countries who will find Singapore more than good enough (albeit for the short term). What is love for the country? Nothing perhaps. Maybe the people in government holds no love for our country either. Perhaps the pragmatic approach has lead to convenient and materialistic governance. Perhaps it’s the fact that politics has deteriorated to the people serving the government rather than the government serving the people. Thus we have no country to serve. We serve the elites.

]]> By: randomnessinmind http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/02/foreigners-compete-with-locals-for-dealers-job-at-marina-bay-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-20540 randomnessinmind Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:29:49 +0000 http://temasekreview.com/?p=11576#comment-20540 “i do not have the figures because MINDEF never publish that. but the rules exist and if they try to play around with the rules by giving up the PR to avoid NS, they are guaranteed to have problem for applying for jobs or education here.” Let me give you a good example here. Because I have a few friends that're exactly like that. Studied till Secondary/Poly/JC, Parents were PR. Renounced their PR status and moved to Australia, Malaysia, USA, UK, Canada. (To study, AND avoid NS) Goes back to their own country every now and then to visit relatives and friends, also to renew their Visa or whatsoever from which ever country they're from. Most don't even intend to find a job in Singapore currently anyways, reasons being living costs is too high. But those from Singapore would think studying overseas incurs a higher cost of living. Which is not entirely wrong, IF you're alone and need little or no securities. But to have a family, buy a CAR, pay COE, LEASE a HOUSE...you're better off getting a nice home in another country, which many of my PR friends is doing now. So exactly what difficulties are they facing? Not able to draw out their CPF when they've contributed none yet? Edusave taken back by the government? Come on, who cares about such small stuffs when there're bigger pastures to walk on with much lesser stress and bigger profits? “i do not have the figures because MINDEF never publish that. but the rules exist and if they try to play around with the rules by giving up the PR to avoid NS, they are guaranteed to have problem for applying for jobs or education here.”

Let me give you a good example here. Because I have a few friends that’re exactly like that.

Studied till Secondary/Poly/JC, Parents were PR.
Renounced their PR status and moved to Australia, Malaysia, USA, UK, Canada. (To study, AND avoid NS)
Goes back to their own country every now and then to visit relatives and friends, also to renew their Visa or whatsoever from which ever country they’re from.
Most don’t even intend to find a job in Singapore currently anyways, reasons being living costs is too high.

But those from Singapore would think studying overseas incurs a higher cost of living. Which is not entirely wrong, IF you’re alone and need little or no securities. But to have a family, buy a CAR, pay COE, LEASE a HOUSE…you’re better off getting a nice home in another country, which many of my PR friends is doing now.

So exactly what difficulties are they facing? Not able to draw out their CPF when they’ve contributed none yet? Edusave taken back by the government? Come on, who cares about such small stuffs when there’re bigger pastures to walk on with much lesser stress and bigger profits?

]]> By: Rainnix http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/02/foreigners-compete-with-locals-for-dealers-job-at-marina-bay-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-20524 Rainnix Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:38:25 +0000 http://temasekreview.com/?p=11576#comment-20524 To Lindo, "i do not have the figures because MINDEF never publish that. but the rules exist and if they try to play around with the rules by giving up the PR to avoid NS, they are guaranteed to have problem for applying for jobs or education here." Guaranteed??? Without any transparency in the civil sector you expect what sort of a guarantee? Your guarantee is it? You are simply too naive to be still believing in the 154th at this moment. You are a even worse loser trying to bash someone who is smarter than you. To Lindo,
“i do not have the figures because MINDEF never publish that. but the rules exist and if they try to play around with the rules by giving up the PR to avoid NS, they are guaranteed to have problem for applying for jobs or education here.”

Guaranteed??? Without any transparency in the civil sector you expect what sort of a guarantee? Your guarantee is it? You are simply too naive to be still believing in the 154th at this moment.

You are a even worse loser trying to bash someone who is smarter than you.

]]> By: lindo http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/02/foreigners-compete-with-locals-for-dealers-job-at-marina-bay-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-20515 lindo Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:00:23 +0000 http://temasekreview.com/?p=11576#comment-20515 terence goh. i do not have the figures because MINDEF never publish that. but the rules exist and if they try to play around with the rules by giving up the PR to avoid NS, they are guaranteed to have problem for applying for jobs or education here. in what other countries in the world will you find PR that have to serve in NS or contribute for CPF? have some respect for PR. the IR jobs issues has already been reported by straits times. and if you have no faith for MSM, go and see yourself the job recuritment 1-2 days ago at suntec. you really sound like a sore loser to me. so much so for bragging of "meritocracy" when you bitch about malaysia terence goh. i do not have the figures because MINDEF never publish that. but the rules exist and if they try to play around with the rules by giving up the PR to avoid NS, they are guaranteed to have problem for applying for jobs or education here. in what other countries in the world will you find PR that have to serve in NS or contribute for CPF? have some respect for PR.

the IR jobs issues has already been reported by straits times. and if you have no faith for MSM, go and see yourself the job recuritment 1-2 days ago at suntec.

you really sound like a sore loser to me. so much so for bragging of “meritocracy” when you bitch about malaysia

]]> By: REMF http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/02/foreigners-compete-with-locals-for-dealers-job-at-marina-bay-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-20489 REMF Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:38:49 +0000 http://temasekreview.com/?p=11576#comment-20489 Somewhere in a few lines in TODAY, Sentosa IR was mentioned that they had no recruitment problem as they had "employed 70% SIngaporeans for croupiers and dealers". WP, you have lobang to dig deep why Employment Permits or "S Pass" were issued to these 30% foreigners working as "dealers and croupiers"? Somewhere in a few lines in TODAY, Sentosa IR was mentioned that they had no recruitment problem as they had “employed 70% SIngaporeans for croupiers and dealers”.

WP, you have lobang to dig deep why Employment Permits or “S Pass” were issued to these 30% foreigners working as “dealers and croupiers”?

]]> By: sicktothebones http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/02/foreigners-compete-with-locals-for-dealers-job-at-marina-bay-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-20475 sicktothebones Sun, 02 Aug 2009 08:07:47 +0000 http://temasekreview.com/?p=11576#comment-20475 national day our nation's birthday is only 7 days away. does belonging to this country mean anything patriotic to you? Or do we always have to remind ourselves not to ask how much the country can do for us but how much we can do for the country? - a country who does not blink an eye when losing billions in failing american banks but so stingy that welfare is a dirty word - such patriotism is meant to feed the peasants' ears and brains only. Marina Sands/Sentosa was trumpeted to provide ten of thousands of jobs - but to who? So now only the tourists and the very rich will fill the gambling halls while the $100 per entry or $2000 annaul season `ERP' ensures the coffers are filled. My China PR sneered at me - he enjoys all the privileges of Spore, no NS for him and best of all he can get into casino free as he holds a PRC passport. We sporeans are still second class peasants in our own country thanks to official policies. Majulah Singapura Aug 9th!! national day our nation’s birthday is only 7 days away. does belonging to this country mean anything patriotic to you? Or do we always have to remind ourselves not to ask how much the country can do for us but how much we can do for the country? – a country who does not blink an eye when losing billions in failing american banks but so stingy that welfare is a dirty word – such patriotism is meant to feed the peasants’ ears and brains only.
Marina Sands/Sentosa was trumpeted to provide ten of thousands of jobs – but to who?
So now only the tourists and the very rich will fill the gambling halls while the $100 per entry or $2000 annaul season `ERP’ ensures the coffers are filled.
My China PR sneered at me – he enjoys all the privileges of Spore, no NS for him and best of all he can get into casino free as he holds a PRC passport. We sporeans are still second class peasants in our own country thanks to official policies. Majulah Singapura Aug 9th!!

]]> By: Sylvester Lim http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/02/foreigners-compete-with-locals-for-dealers-job-at-marina-bay-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-20473 Sylvester Lim Sun, 02 Aug 2009 07:17:07 +0000 http://temasekreview.com/?p=11576#comment-20473 Terence Goh on Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 2:39 pm, is right and PRs themselves have been reported to say that they do not want their sons to serve NS. What is the % of 2nd generation PRs that do NS versus the numbers that leave? Remember, these PRs have the guts to leave their homeland for another. What is there to stop them for leaving for Australia or Canada or USA as most of them are using SG as a stepping stone. Since these PRs love SG soooo much and want to be part of our society, they can serve this wonderful city state by performing part-time NS such Police NS. We had such things in Singapore before you know. Terence Goh on Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 2:39 pm, is right and PRs themselves have been reported to say that they do not want their sons to serve NS. What is the % of 2nd generation PRs that do NS versus the numbers that leave? Remember, these PRs have the guts to leave their homeland for another. What is there to stop them for leaving for Australia or Canada or USA as most of them are using SG as a stepping stone. Since these PRs love SG soooo much and want to be part of our society, they can serve this wonderful city state by performing part-time NS such Police NS. We had such things in Singapore before you know.

]]> By: Terence Goh http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/08/02/foreigners-compete-with-locals-for-dealers-job-at-marina-bay-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-20469 Terence Goh Sun, 02 Aug 2009 06:42:31 +0000 http://temasekreview.com/?p=11576#comment-20469 Singaporeans should ship their family to low cost countries like China and Malaysia. They alone stay and work, then they can take home $1k per month and compete with the foreign workers. Forget about the crap about building a country, survival of the fittest comes first. Singaporeans should ship their family to low cost countries like China and Malaysia. They alone stay and work, then they can take home $1k per month and compete with the foreign workers. Forget about the crap about building a country, survival of the fittest comes first.

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