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		<title>By: kindlyexplain</title>
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		<dc:creator>kindlyexplain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With thanks to trailnuts&#039; below Mon, 4th May 2009 9:09 pm post in Wayang Party&#039;s &quot;BREAKING: Leaked emails from COOS members showed that AWARE take-over was pre-planned in advance!!&quot;

&quot;Turns out Shawn Tay himself claims to be an &#039;ex-gay&#039;.. umm…. take a look here..

http://www.coos.org.sg/testimony/index.php?coospg=2007/2007_finding_learning_the_truth.html

interesting…&quot;

Yah. Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With thanks to trailnuts&#8217; below Mon, 4th May 2009 9:09 pm post in Wayang Party&#8217;s &#8220;BREAKING: Leaked emails from COOS members showed that AWARE take-over was pre-planned in advance!!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Turns out Shawn Tay himself claims to be an &#8216;ex-gay&#8217;.. umm…. take a look here..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.coos.org.sg/testimony/index.php?coospg=2007/2007_finding_learning_the_truth.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.coos.org.sg/testimony/index.php?coospg=2007/2007_finding_learning_the_truth.html</a></p>
<p>interesting…&#8221;</p>
<p>Yah. Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: kindlyexplain</title>
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		<dc:creator>kindlyexplain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot-on, &quot;a&quot;. Spot-on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot-on, &#8220;a&#8221;. Spot-on.</p>
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		<title>By: a</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 10:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parents are right to be concerned.

1. Homosexuality is entirely redundant in the CSE.
Even if you don&#039;t mention any single word at all on homosexuality, the focus and contents of the course are the same. There is no impact. The girls still learn everything in there about no/safe-sex.

2. Homosexuality is a controversial issue.
CSE tries to say homosexuality is a simple neutral thing, which is far from the true reality. Homosexuality is actually a controversial thing. This is not just in Singapore, but even also in so-called &quot;liberal&quot; countries too.

3. CSE is supposed to give objective advices to young girls.
Anything said in such a course may be mistaken to be the objective reality. But the reality is: homosexuality is still controversial and inconclusive. The young girls may be confused which is the true reality.

Combine (1),(2),(3) : Why say mention homosexuality when you don&#039;t even need to say a word on homosexuality? Why say homosexuality is neutral when it is actually controversial. Somemore, this is done in a course where the girls may take this as the objective reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parents are right to be concerned.</p>
<p>1. Homosexuality is entirely redundant in the CSE.<br />
Even if you don&#8217;t mention any single word at all on homosexuality, the focus and contents of the course are the same. There is no impact. The girls still learn everything in there about no/safe-sex.</p>
<p>2. Homosexuality is a controversial issue.<br />
CSE tries to say homosexuality is a simple neutral thing, which is far from the true reality. Homosexuality is actually a controversial thing. This is not just in Singapore, but even also in so-called &#8220;liberal&#8221; countries too.</p>
<p>3. CSE is supposed to give objective advices to young girls.<br />
Anything said in such a course may be mistaken to be the objective reality. But the reality is: homosexuality is still controversial and inconclusive. The young girls may be confused which is the true reality.</p>
<p>Combine (1),(2),(3) : Why say mention homosexuality when you don&#8217;t even need to say a word on homosexuality? Why say homosexuality is neutral when it is actually controversial. Somemore, this is done in a course where the girls may take this as the objective reality.</p>
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		<title>By: kindlyexplain</title>
		<link>http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/05/06/leaked-appeal-to-prime-minister-on-values-of-marriage-and-family/comment-page-4/#comment-13267</link>
		<dc:creator>kindlyexplain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 00:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Anonymous&#039;s Sun, 10th May 2009 10:32 am.

Spot on. Absolutely spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Anonymous&#8217;s Sun, 10th May 2009 10:32 am.</p>
<p>Spot on. Absolutely spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: kindlyexplain</title>
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		<dc:creator>kindlyexplain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 07:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To stronghold.

&quot;stronghold on Wed, 6th May 2009 5:00 pm 

How can homosexuality or gay be a NEUTRAL word!?

It’s obviously a POSITIVE word!!! =)&quot;

Gay (and also, heterosexual) sex between homo sapians and animals willtherefore be obviously a very much more POSITIVE word to you ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To stronghold.</p>
<p>&#8220;stronghold on Wed, 6th May 2009 5:00 pm </p>
<p>How can homosexuality or gay be a NEUTRAL word!?</p>
<p>It’s obviously a POSITIVE word!!! =)&#8221;</p>
<p>Gay (and also, heterosexual) sex between homo sapians and animals willtherefore be obviously a very much more POSITIVE word to you ???</p>
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		<title>By: Bam Bam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bam Bam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 04:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eyes Open Shut: can I point out to you that there are many other types of relationships which were forbidden in the past based on religious and societal norms have been overturned in time because bigoted views hiders progression of equality. Here&#039;s an easy counter to your argument by simply replacing some of your own words:
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They practice INTERRACIAL sex with some regularity. Their conscience might have one time bothered them, and probably not anymore. they struggle to be considered normal.

The activist INTERRACIAL COUPLE tries to change social norm, much like the fanatical militants. It might be subtle, covert or open, but their agenda is to push the societal norm of “abnormal bahaviour into “acceptable” under the guise of “new” social order.

... It has not been contributory to any societal progress... but like a virus that destroys its host (think H1N1), their lifestyle breaks and destroys the societal fabric, foundation and future.
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it will be easy for you to argue away that our society has progressed and this is irrelevant. but it is relevant because it is about equality. without debunking the religious and racial intolerance (and maintaining status quo), your biracial or multiracial friends would not be accepted wholly in society today because they would be considered bastard offspring of illegitimate sexual coupling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eyes Open Shut: can I point out to you that there are many other types of relationships which were forbidden in the past based on religious and societal norms have been overturned in time because bigoted views hiders progression of equality. Here&#8217;s an easy counter to your argument by simply replacing some of your own words:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
They practice INTERRACIAL sex with some regularity. Their conscience might have one time bothered them, and probably not anymore. they struggle to be considered normal.</p>
<p>The activist INTERRACIAL COUPLE tries to change social norm, much like the fanatical militants. It might be subtle, covert or open, but their agenda is to push the societal norm of “abnormal bahaviour into “acceptable” under the guise of “new” social order.</p>
<p>&#8230; It has not been contributory to any societal progress&#8230; but like a virus that destroys its host (think H1N1), their lifestyle breaks and destroys the societal fabric, foundation and future.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>it will be easy for you to argue away that our society has progressed and this is irrelevant. but it is relevant because it is about equality. without debunking the religious and racial intolerance (and maintaining status quo), your biracial or multiracial friends would not be accepted wholly in society today because they would be considered bastard offspring of illegitimate sexual coupling.</p>
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		<title>By: Outsider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 03:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I add to my comments above that it is much, much preferable to delay for as long as is possible the evolution to unwholesomeness of our society than to hasten it, though it is not possible to avoid the power of evolution itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I add to my comments above that it is much, much preferable to delay for as long as is possible the evolution to unwholesomeness of our society than to hasten it, though it is not possible to avoid the power of evolution itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 02:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
JohnnyKid on Wed, 6th May 2009 6:49 pm 
&gt;MOE has shown a high degree of tolerance and understanding for people who can hear voices in their heads, and with an addiction to a certain religion.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

Your view above is simplistic. 
How are you so sure there are not others of other various religions too who are not also disturbed by the issue, but did not voice out publicly as the church goers did? And what makes you think they are thinking only of their religion when they objected to those things, or the manner in which they are presented to our kids? I am sure MOE is also concerned about this, and thus had acted quickly.

But in any case, with the intellectually ferocious influence of the original AWARE group, we can definitely say bye-bye to wholesome family values in our country. A victory for anarchy?

The saddest thing about this episode is the fact that Mdm Thio&#039;s group has been wrongly accused of playing with religion when this is obviously not so, notwithstanding that they subscribe to the preferred scriptures of their choice. The issue they oppose is not about religion in the least, it is an issue concerning people all religions and all walk of life. Please do not hurl shoes at them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
JohnnyKid on Wed, 6th May 2009 6:49 pm<br />
&gt;MOE has shown a high degree of tolerance and understanding for people who can hear voices in their heads, and with an addiction to a certain religion.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Your view above is simplistic.<br />
How are you so sure there are not others of other various religions too who are not also disturbed by the issue, but did not voice out publicly as the church goers did? And what makes you think they are thinking only of their religion when they objected to those things, or the manner in which they are presented to our kids? I am sure MOE is also concerned about this, and thus had acted quickly.</p>
<p>But in any case, with the intellectually ferocious influence of the original AWARE group, we can definitely say bye-bye to wholesome family values in our country. A victory for anarchy?</p>
<p>The saddest thing about this episode is the fact that Mdm Thio&#8217;s group has been wrongly accused of playing with religion when this is obviously not so, notwithstanding that they subscribe to the preferred scriptures of their choice. The issue they oppose is not about religion in the least, it is an issue concerning people all religions and all walk of life. Please do not hurl shoes at them.</p>
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		<title>By: kindlyexplain</title>
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		<dc:creator>kindlyexplain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 12:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gay-Cat&#039;s Wed, 6th May 2009 8:05 pm&#039;s 

&quot;http://www.talkingcock.com/html/article.php?sid=2741

Animals in Singapore are expressing worry that rabid religious fanatics might soon attempt to take over the Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.&quot;

Only natural for talkingcock to talk cock. 

Animals will surely be much relieved and thankful should the specific category of rabid religious fanatics talkingcok refers to, take over the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. 

For then, that specific category of rabid religious fanatics talkingcock refers to, will surely ensure that Dana&#039;s AWARE supported copulators of homo sapien rectums, will never &quot;progress&quot; to copulating animal rectums too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay-Cat&#8217;s Wed, 6th May 2009 8:05 pm&#8217;s </p>
<p>&#8220;http://www.talkingcock.com/html/article.php?sid=2741</p>
<p>Animals in Singapore are expressing worry that rabid religious fanatics might soon attempt to take over the Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only natural for talkingcock to talk cock. </p>
<p>Animals will surely be much relieved and thankful should the specific category of rabid religious fanatics talkingcok refers to, take over the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. </p>
<p>For then, that specific category of rabid religious fanatics talkingcock refers to, will surely ensure that Dana&#8217;s AWARE supported copulators of homo sapien rectums, will never &#8220;progress&#8221; to copulating animal rectums too.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 07:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another thio...

majulah singapura some more...

later, we all dont know will kena thio what from all these thios who so much want to push their beliefs to the masses

i still much prefer feminist mentor, just the name itself strikes fear to the core, even though i am a female too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another thio&#8230;</p>
<p>majulah singapura some more&#8230;</p>
<p>later, we all dont know will kena thio what from all these thios who so much want to push their beliefs to the masses</p>
<p>i still much prefer feminist mentor, just the name itself strikes fear to the core, even though i am a female too.</p>
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