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		<title>By: Robox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anonmouser II, I think that what can be done by AWARE if the extraordinary general meeting turns out the way I hope it does, is to institute policy so that this can never happen again.

I&#039;ve heard of organizations - not in Singapore - in which you can only run for exco if you fulfil conditions like having worked or volunteered in the organization before.

That way the organization knows who are you and what you stand for.

And what pre-raid AWARE was is a feminist organization that stands for non-discrimination on any grounds, including sexual orientation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonmouser II, I think that what can be done by AWARE if the extraordinary general meeting turns out the way I hope it does, is to institute policy so that this can never happen again.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard of organizations &#8211; not in Singapore &#8211; in which you can only run for exco if you fulfil conditions like having worked or volunteered in the organization before.</p>
<p>That way the organization knows who are you and what you stand for.</p>
<p>And what pre-raid AWARE was is a feminist organization that stands for non-discrimination on any grounds, including sexual orientation.</p>
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		<title>By: REMF</title>
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		<dc:creator>REMF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am astounded that a staid organisation like AWARE can be so easily blind-sided with newbies performing the time-honored technique of Tyranny of the Majority.

Don&#039;t they read-up on the Communist technique (even mentioned in MM memiors as to why they stop branch offcies from electing new leaders)

1 - Infiltrate a branch office with a handful of cadres.
2 - Abide the time as knowing the apathetic majority decided not to turn-up.
3 - With just a handful of dedicated hardcored communists, they win the branch officie election easily as the apathetic majority simply cna&#039;t be bothered to turn-up.

And that is exactly how AWARE fell to just a handful of committed newbies when the apathetic hundreds did not bothered to turn up at AGM.

AWARE membership roll - 100 or 1,000 or a few thousands?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am astounded that a staid organisation like AWARE can be so easily blind-sided with newbies performing the time-honored technique of Tyranny of the Majority.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t they read-up on the Communist technique (even mentioned in MM memiors as to why they stop branch offcies from electing new leaders)</p>
<p>1 &#8211; Infiltrate a branch office with a handful of cadres.<br />
2 &#8211; Abide the time as knowing the apathetic majority decided not to turn-up.<br />
3 &#8211; With just a handful of dedicated hardcored communists, they win the branch officie election easily as the apathetic majority simply cna&#8217;t be bothered to turn-up.</p>
<p>And that is exactly how AWARE fell to just a handful of committed newbies when the apathetic hundreds did not bothered to turn up at AGM.</p>
<p>AWARE membership roll &#8211; 100 or 1,000 or a few thousands?</p>
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		<title>By: anonmouser II</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonmouser II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aware should have been more on their toes. One thing I have noticed abt the brotherhood in the virtual is. One reason why they can usually defeat bigger opponents, is they are very good at anticipating their attack plans and even pre-empting them. For example, if a group of miners in some planet are planning to stage a coup. Brotherhood allies will pick it up. They will put a big space station to monitor all activities there. When the coup is staged. They know who the leaders are, right down to the chain of command, network and even strategy. 

As I said, aware should have been more aware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aware should have been more on their toes. One thing I have noticed abt the brotherhood in the virtual is. One reason why they can usually defeat bigger opponents, is they are very good at anticipating their attack plans and even pre-empting them. For example, if a group of miners in some planet are planning to stage a coup. Brotherhood allies will pick it up. They will put a big space station to monitor all activities there. When the coup is staged. They know who the leaders are, right down to the chain of command, network and even strategy. </p>
<p>As I said, aware should have been more aware.</p>
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		<title>By: wakeUp</title>
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		<dc:creator>wakeUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This smells a little fishy and too much of a coincidence. Sounds like a hijack... a rule-abiding but not exactly honorable takeover. AWARE should have had a clause in their constitution saying something like only members who have joined for x months have a right to vote. Whatever the case, I hope the new AWARE team stays true to its mission despite its affiliations. If not, it&#039;s up to believers of the old AWARE to kickstart a new movement. Only the ones involved in the &quot;conspiracy&quot; will know for certain if this was a conspiracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This smells a little fishy and too much of a coincidence. Sounds like a hijack&#8230; a rule-abiding but not exactly honorable takeover. AWARE should have had a clause in their constitution saying something like only members who have joined for x months have a right to vote. Whatever the case, I hope the new AWARE team stays true to its mission despite its affiliations. If not, it&#8217;s up to believers of the old AWARE to kickstart a new movement. Only the ones involved in the &#8220;conspiracy&#8221; will know for certain if this was a conspiracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Robox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To JK:

Re: &quot;Why are news reports and blog posts/comments on the new Aware leadership focused on gay/homosexual issues?&quot;

The reason for that is AWARE conducts sex and sexuality education that are not discriminatory towards gays and lesbians.

AWARE will have none of that, never mind that they already have Focus on the Family to disseminate non-factual information about gay sexuality in the guise of sex ed in schools.

It is clear that AWARE has a totalitarian agenda; they want to lay the groundwork in the schools today to ensure that future generations grow up homophobic and they hijack all the available spaces - even though they should be respecting a feminist space as unavailable for their agenda - to advance their goal.

Some of the new AWARE leaders  have already established their credentials as anti-gay with their letters to the Straight Times.

Wouldn&#039;t you conclude that the new AWARE exco members are anti-gay then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To JK:</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;Why are news reports and blog posts/comments on the new Aware leadership focused on gay/homosexual issues?&#8221;</p>
<p>The reason for that is AWARE conducts sex and sexuality education that are not discriminatory towards gays and lesbians.</p>
<p>AWARE will have none of that, never mind that they already have Focus on the Family to disseminate non-factual information about gay sexuality in the guise of sex ed in schools.</p>
<p>It is clear that AWARE has a totalitarian agenda; they want to lay the groundwork in the schools today to ensure that future generations grow up homophobic and they hijack all the available spaces &#8211; even though they should be respecting a feminist space as unavailable for their agenda &#8211; to advance their goal.</p>
<p>Some of the new AWARE leaders  have already established their credentials as anti-gay with their letters to the Straight Times.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you conclude that the new AWARE exco members are anti-gay then?</p>
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		<title>By: HoundDawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>HoundDawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cat fight!
Cat fight!
Cat fight!

Hissy fit!
Hissy fit!

Even if you emerge victorious in a cat fight, you&#039;re still a pussy.

Meow!

What a bunch of cry-babies.

FAIL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cat fight!<br />
Cat fight!<br />
Cat fight!</p>
<p>Hissy fit!<br />
Hissy fit!</p>
<p>Even if you emerge victorious in a cat fight, you&#8217;re still a pussy.</p>
<p>Meow!</p>
<p>What a bunch of cry-babies.</p>
<p>FAIL!</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Pokey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Pokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>old farts whining that they got snookered by more enterprising organised noobs in the club. what it tells us, it is easy to pull the rug from under their fat feet. just vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>old farts whining that they got snookered by more enterprising organised noobs in the club. what it tells us, it is easy to pull the rug from under their fat feet. just vote.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are news reports and blog posts/comments on the new Aware leadership focused on gay/homosexual issues? Why are the new leaders labeled as anti-gay? 

Was/is AWARE a gay organization? Were/are most women-related issues just its &quot;side dishes&quot; and gay rights the &quot;main dish&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are news reports and blog posts/comments on the new Aware leadership focused on gay/homosexual issues? Why are the new leaders labeled as anti-gay? </p>
<p>Was/is AWARE a gay organization? Were/are most women-related issues just its &#8220;side dishes&#8221; and gay rights the &#8220;main dish&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: lassie</title>
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		<dc:creator>lassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind. Its pointless talking to this new EXCO members. All they will say is this is not relevant that is not important and so on and so forth.

I am very good at complaining. So I am going to sit down for 2 hours now and write a long letter of complain directly to darkness. Then I will write to missy dotty to ask her to tekan him. And after I have finished there, I will write to each individual read club leader, requesting them to do the same. And once darkness reads all of this. He will certainly put everything back the way it used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind. Its pointless talking to this new EXCO members. All they will say is this is not relevant that is not important and so on and so forth.</p>
<p>I am very good at complaining. So I am going to sit down for 2 hours now and write a long letter of complain directly to darkness. Then I will write to missy dotty to ask her to tekan him. And after I have finished there, I will write to each individual read club leader, requesting them to do the same. And once darkness reads all of this. He will certainly put everything back the way it used to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Many people have been voicing their concern about the impact of the new exco on AWARE’s existing programmes, especially where things like Sexuality are concerned.&quot;

That has to be an understatement of the year Mathialee. But what did you really expect when a question from the floor about sexuality and religious affliation was quickly brushed off by one of the new exco members as &quot;irrelevant.&quot;

&quot;If we lose your support, then perhaps, what the ST report would have achieved, is the damaging of the credibility and effectiveness of AWARE, more than anything itself. In Singapore, platforms for non-governmental alternative voices are few and far between, and we need united support from all who share the same philosophy, in order to speak with a louder voice.&quot;

You will lose support NOT bc of ST. You will lose support bc many questions have been directed to this new exco concerning their religious affliation and so far no press release has been coming.

So far I think folk like the brotherhood are neutral. But they are not beyond persuasion. As the pressure mounts. Many of their readers and even writers such as Missy Dotty will expect them to take a firm position. Eventually, they will have to take sides. And when they do finally decide to take a position. Do you really think they give a damn about your so called, philosophy or voice. You better provide us all with answers Mathialee. The questions asked of the new exco should be answered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many people have been voicing their concern about the impact of the new exco on AWARE’s existing programmes, especially where things like Sexuality are concerned.&#8221;</p>
<p>That has to be an understatement of the year Mathialee. But what did you really expect when a question from the floor about sexuality and religious affliation was quickly brushed off by one of the new exco members as &#8220;irrelevant.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If we lose your support, then perhaps, what the ST report would have achieved, is the damaging of the credibility and effectiveness of AWARE, more than anything itself. In Singapore, platforms for non-governmental alternative voices are few and far between, and we need united support from all who share the same philosophy, in order to speak with a louder voice.&#8221;</p>
<p>You will lose support NOT bc of ST. You will lose support bc many questions have been directed to this new exco concerning their religious affliation and so far no press release has been coming.</p>
<p>So far I think folk like the brotherhood are neutral. But they are not beyond persuasion. As the pressure mounts. Many of their readers and even writers such as Missy Dotty will expect them to take a firm position. Eventually, they will have to take sides. And when they do finally decide to take a position. Do you really think they give a damn about your so called, philosophy or voice. You better provide us all with answers Mathialee. The questions asked of the new exco should be answered.</p>
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